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Old November 23rd, 2004, 06:33 PM   #1
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Confused about HD framesize

How come FCPHD doesnt have a setting that matches the FX1 / Z1 resolution?

Does that mean it creates a non standard HD signal ?
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Old November 23rd, 2004, 07:04 PM   #2
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You could make your own custom setting to do so, I did and I imported demuxed m2v files into FCPHD. MPEG streamclip has a setting that will allow the creation of unscaled m2v files that will display in their native resolution (though the downside of this is you'll now have 1440*1080 4:3 image with an anamorphic squeeze).

However, there is no HD codec in FCPHD that supports the frame size (unless you go uncompressed)
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Old November 23rd, 2004, 07:14 PM   #3
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I assume that will change when Apple release an update for FCP HD ?

Btw, notice you live in Portsmouth. I am in London, but was born in Bognor :)
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Old November 24th, 2004, 04:49 AM   #4
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...small world ! as I live near Chichester !

I am waiting for early Z1 buyers' reviews before deciding whether or not to 'go Pro'.

This will also give time for the new HDV plugins to be teased out for all the NLEs (I'm currently working with PPro 1.5) plus any other bugs / issues / tricks from the FX1 to be fully understood....

Let me know when your in town !
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Old November 24th, 2004, 06:02 AM   #5
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Wow - a little South coast HDV cadre. Maybe I'll see you guys around, though can't say I often get to Bognor OR Chichester that often. (London's a little easier.)

I work at the University here. I'm hoping to persuade Sony to let me experiment with some HDV gear in the near future (once I'm done marking) with a view to getting the uni to buy HDV equipment (Z1 preferably) in the near future for our third year production skills unit, so they'd start on DV, move to DVCAM in year two and have a nice beig treat in year three.

My main thought is to think about a whole start to finish production flow - and an Apple approach seems to most promising. I'm even thinking of trying to do it as a research project and may even be able to find some funding to play with this stuff.

I'm sure the apple thing will change - there will be a HDV quicktime codec soon, and Lumiere promised an option to output HDV direct from the FCP timeline in a future update (though they're yet to support 1080i/FX1/Z1 so far)
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Old November 24th, 2004, 06:35 AM   #6
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Big up the South Coast massive :)
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Old November 24th, 2004, 06:56 AM   #7
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@ Dylan :

are you running a degree course or something, is sunds interesting. I'm in my final year of engineering in London, sometimes i wonder if i should have choosen to take a media course, but in a strange way i think i've learnt more from these forums than some of these courses out their!

I wonder if their is much hope for an engineer in the media industry?
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Old November 24th, 2004, 07:37 AM   #8
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An admittedly off-topic note, but as the board's owner I get to do this: it simply amazes me how we draw groups of people together here. We have Aussies, Brits, Canadians, Texans, South Africans, Malaysians, Russians, people from everywhere who find out they live just down the road from the previous poster. That's pretty cool. Okay, now back to our programming...
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Old November 24th, 2004, 02:21 PM   #9
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<<<-- Originally posted by Chris Hurd :

We have Aussies, Brits, Canadians, Texans, South Africans, Malaysians, Russians, people from everywhere... -->>>


We have Texans here? Alrighty, then... I'm leaving!

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Old November 24th, 2004, 11:11 PM   #10
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Yup.. LOTS of Canadians I may add! :P

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Old November 25th, 2004, 08:43 AM   #11
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Sorry Chris - a bit off topic again

<<<-- Originally posted by Anhar Miah : @ Dylan :

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I wonder if their is much hope for an engineer in the media industry? -->>>

There sure is - you don't mention what branch of engineering, but if itdemonstrates a technical capability, then the media industries depends on people with technical expertise.

If you're more interested in the creative side, look towards enrolling on a post graduate course (bear in mind that most Post Grad courses in Media and film tend to be very academic but some do have practical aspects).

Alternatively, get yourself the best camera you can afford, some good mics (or better yet some great mics; to spend at least a quarter as much on mics as you would on a camera is, to my mind a good aspiration) and a half decent NLE set up and start shooting and editing. At the same time, go to the library and start reading. You're right you'll learn plenty from good forums (fora?) like this but it's no subsitute for hitting the books.

Now, as Chris said, I return you to regular programming.
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Old November 26th, 2004, 08:49 AM   #12
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Just to continue from the original question.

Would you edit using that 1440 resultion, and output in the same, or would you render the final movie at 1920 x 1080 ?

Still a little confused...
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Old November 26th, 2004, 11:24 AM   #13
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Output at 1920 x 1080 ...

Capture your footage and cut it together. Then output your footage uncompressed 1920x1080. You won't notice any real up-rezing quality loss..
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Old November 27th, 2004, 05:25 AM   #14
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<<<-- Originally posted by Shealan Forshaw : Just to continue from the original question.

Would you edit using that 1440 resultion, and output in the same, or would you render the final movie at 1920 x 1080 ?

Still a little confused... -->>>

If you're outputting from FCP then I would recommend onlining and outputting in 1440 and using a different programme to actually create other frame size masters - I hear the rescaling algorithms used in FCP aren't very good.

As far as I know, for 1080i, both HD broadcast and D-VHS are 1440*1080 anyway.
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Old November 27th, 2004, 08:09 AM   #15
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I agree.... The output from FCP isn't hot at all..

Use CLEANER to uprez.. Its fantastic.
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