HDV and Timecode? at DVinfo.net

Dustin Cross · December 10th, 2004, 12:24 PM

Aloha,

Is there any app, PC or MAC, that supports HDV and timecode?

Rob Lohman · December 11th, 2004, 06:16 AM

Supports in what way? What do you want to do? I assume the
timecode is also just saved in the DV headers that are still being
created...

David Kennett · December 11th, 2004, 07:22 AM

Dusty

Pay my way and I'll come down and personally explain - well antthing you want! With winter coming - I'd love to be THERE.

Back to reality. All computer editors use some variety of time code. That's the only way they can make frame accurate edits. Cheaper DV stuff creates new time code when capturing. The better capture programs allow you to keep the time code that's on the original tape, so you can re-capture and use the edit points you have already identified.

Dave

Dustin Cross · December 12th, 2004, 02:39 AM

I understand that all editors support TC, but I have yet to find any HDV footage with timecode. That is my biggest problem with HDV right now is NO timecode.

Rob Lohman · December 14th, 2004, 08:13 AM

Hmmm, that would be weird. Are you sure the problem is not
somewhere in the capture / convert phase or the NLE instead
of the camera?

How are you capturing / converting the footage and what for
NLE are you using?

I don't have a HDV camera myself so I can't see it for myself.
Any other HDV user out there that can chime in?

Dustin Cross · December 14th, 2004, 12:07 PM

Rob,

I have an FX1 and I capture with LumiereHD 1.5b. With LumiereHD it just has a start capture and stop capture buttom. So far I have found no capture utility that gives me a file with TC.

Rob Lohman · December 15th, 2004, 04:09 AM

I assume this program "captures" to an MPEG-2 file? In that case
I'm not surprised there is no timecode indeed. I was talking about
if you just capture to AVI with the DV stream in there that contains
an MPEG-2 file and edit that with a program that would understand
this construct you could have timecode.

I'm not sure if MPEG-2 even supports timecode, let alone if an NLE
could read it (doubtful, since only now are we beginning to enter
the MPEG-2 market).

It sounds like this is something you will just have to live with
(same as almost no capture or edit support yet)....

Sorry!

December 10th, 2004, 12:24 PM	#1
Dustin Cross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 133	HDV and Timecode? Aloha, Is there any app, PC or MAC, that supports HDV and timecode? __________________ Mahalo, Dusty

December 11th, 2004, 06:16 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Supports in what way? What do you want to do? I assume the timecode is also just saved in the DV headers that are still being created... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 11th, 2004, 07:22 AM	#3
David Kennett Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio Posts: 407	Dusty Pay my way and I'll come down and personally explain - well antthing you want! With winter coming - I'd love to be THERE. Back to reality. All computer editors use some variety of time code. That's the only way they can make frame accurate edits. Cheaper DV stuff creates new time code when capturing. The better capture programs allow you to keep the time code that's on the original tape, so you can re-capture and use the edit points you have already identified. Dave __________________ Dave

December 12th, 2004, 02:39 AM	#4
Dustin Cross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 133	I understand that all editors support TC, but I have yet to find any HDV footage with timecode. That is my biggest problem with HDV right now is NO timecode. __________________ Mahalo, Dusty

December 14th, 2004, 08:13 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Hmmm, that would be weird. Are you sure the problem is not somewhere in the capture / convert phase or the NLE instead of the camera? How are you capturing / converting the footage and what for NLE are you using? I don't have a HDV camera myself so I can't see it for myself. Any other HDV user out there that can chime in? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 14th, 2004, 12:07 PM	#6
Dustin Cross Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 133	Rob, I have an FX1 and I capture with LumiereHD 1.5b. With LumiereHD it just has a start capture and stop capture buttom. So far I have found no capture utility that gives me a file with TC. __________________ Mahalo, Dusty

December 15th, 2004, 04:09 AM	#7
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I assume this program "captures" to an MPEG-2 file? In that case I'm not surprised there is no timecode indeed. I was talking about if you just capture to AVI with the DV stream in there that contains an MPEG-2 file and edit that with a program that would understand this construct you could have timecode. I'm not sure if MPEG-2 even supports timecode, let alone if an NLE could read it (doubtful, since only now are we beginning to enter the MPEG-2 market). It sounds like this is something you will just have to live with (same as almost no capture or edit support yet).... Sorry! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors