Cinema Disp or LCD TV

Jason Brunner · May 19th, 2005, 10:23 PM

I am using apple 23" Cinema displays, and in most respect they are fantastic, however, they don't calibrate to match CRT's (and maybe thats ok) but also, and something to consider, it, is very hard to or impossible to see pulldown or interlace scan issues on them. Not usually a problem, but if you screw up, as I did, with a pull down/interlace issue (extra fields), you probably won't see it till it hits a crt. In my case it was a super easy fix, but it could have been a big problem under other circumstances.

Jason Brunner · May 19th, 2005, 10:27 PM

<<And for an extra $185 they will sell you a mask to cover the top and bottom of the 4:3 screen and make it appear to be 16:9.>>

That's funny!! I'm going to make one for my old TV in the bedroom!!
A 4:3 to 16:9 conversion kit for old TV's!!! I'm gonna be rich!!!!

Boyd Ostroff · May 19th, 2005, 10:43 PM

This discussion raises an interesting point. Since we're in the HDV forum I assume the goal is editing in some HD format. Now I understand all the issues with studio quality CRT monitors, but they come from a world where everyone watched TV on CRT screen.

Many (if not most) viewers of HD will be watching on plasma screens, LCD screen, DLP projectors, LCD projectors, etc. Does this change things?

A couple years ago I edited a lot of widescreen DV that was shown on a 44' wide screen with a 10,000 lumen Barco DLP projector. I used a 17" Sony widescreen LCD as a monitor while editing. I felt that what we projected on the big screen actually matched my LCD very well. In fact, in the theatre we had a good Sony CRT monitor connected to the Doremi deck that fed the projector via component video. The image on that CRT screen looked less like the projection than my small LCD screen did.

John McGinley · May 19th, 2005, 11:06 PM

It would be nice to have an add-on card like this

http://www.digitalconnection.com/Pro...deo/mdp120.asp

that would output to Component monitors on the cheap. I looked into the Quadro solution and it's a PCI-Express card, which would require an upgrade of my motherboard. Which if I'm going to upgrade my motherboard I might as well get the Decklink card instead.

May 19th, 2005, 10:23 PM	#16
Jason Brunner Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Salt Lake City. Utah Posts: 68	I am using apple 23" Cinema displays, and in most respect they are fantastic, however, they don't calibrate to match CRT's (and maybe thats ok) but also, and something to consider, it, is very hard to or impossible to see pulldown or interlace scan issues on them. Not usually a problem, but if you screw up, as I did, with a pull down/interlace issue (extra fields), you probably won't see it till it hits a crt. In my case it was a super easy fix, but it could have been a big problem under other circumstances. __________________ Kindest regards, Jason Brunner jason@aros.net http://www.jasonbrunner.com http://www.fleurpost.net (Thats just, like, my opinion, man)

May 19th, 2005, 10:27 PM	#17
Jason Brunner Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Salt Lake City. Utah Posts: 68	<<And for an extra $185 they will sell you a mask to cover the top and bottom of the 4:3 screen and make it appear to be 16:9.>> That's funny!! I'm going to make one for my old TV in the bedroom!! A 4:3 to 16:9 conversion kit for old TV's!!! I'm gonna be rich!!!! __________________ Kindest regards, Jason Brunner jason@aros.net http://www.jasonbrunner.com http://www.fleurpost.net (Thats just, like, my opinion, man)

May 19th, 2005, 10:43 PM	#18
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	This discussion raises an interesting point. Since we're in the HDV forum I assume the goal is editing in some HD format. Now I understand all the issues with studio quality CRT monitors, but they come from a world where everyone watched TV on CRT screen. Many (if not most) viewers of HD will be watching on plasma screens, LCD screen, DLP projectors, LCD projectors, etc. Does this change things? A couple years ago I edited a lot of widescreen DV that was shown on a 44' wide screen with a 10,000 lumen Barco DLP projector. I used a 17" Sony widescreen LCD as a monitor while editing. I felt that what we projected on the big screen actually matched my LCD very well. In fact, in the theatre we had a good Sony CRT monitor connected to the Doremi deck that fed the projector via component video. The image on that CRT screen looked less like the projection than my small LCD screen did.

May 19th, 2005, 11:06 PM	#19
John McGinley Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 142	It would be nice to have an add-on card like this http://www.digitalconnection.com/Pro...deo/mdp120.asp that would output to Component monitors on the cheap. I looked into the Quadro solution and it's a PCI-Express card, which would require an upgrade of my motherboard. Which if I'm going to upgrade my motherboard I might as well get the Decklink card instead.