Can I preview HDV on fcp 5.1.2 via firewire? at DVinfo.net

Sergio Ameijeiras · January 31st, 2007, 03:42 PM

Hi all,

This is my first post, so go easy on me guys!!

I'm fairly new to the "video editing" world, I just bought an Intel iMac 20" and a Sony HC3 (HD). I used SD cameras and Windows based programs in the past, so I'm not entirely new to this world.
My problem is that because I am so lost and confused with this HDV format war I decided to capture everything in HD, edit in HD and then create a SD DVD. But while these formats kill each other I want to keep the HD master somehow.
The idea that came to my mind was to capture on the HC3 via the HDVin (firewire) the entire already edited HD project from fcp, but I've been having problems trying to make this work. I can't get this HDVin to work.
Am I trying to do something impossible here?? If that's the case, which way do you recommend me to follow to keep my HD master on a miniDV tape for future HD authoring?

I really hope somebody can help me out.

Thanks a lot guys!

Sergio

Boyd Ostroff · January 31st, 2007, 04:22 PM

Welcome to DVinfo Sergio! Unfortunately you cannot get realtime previews of HDV over firewire like you can with regular DV. Your alternative would be a second computer monitor running in "Digital Cinema Desktop" mode in FCP. The Matrox MXO is a cool option, but I'm not sure if it would work with an iMac.

You might find these threads interesting:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=83917
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=84443
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=84129
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=82391

Sergio Ameijeiras · January 31st, 2007, 04:39 PM

Thanks for the info Boyd!
My only question is if I go for the Matrox MXO, how can I then capture on tape the HD content? Do I connect the camera to this box?
Thanks again
Sergio

Boyd Ostroff · January 31st, 2007, 04:46 PM

There's no problem *capturing* HDV over firewire, and you can use Print to Video to send your finished project back to the camera over firewire. But you cannot use firewire to monitor HDV as you edit.

Sergio Ameijeiras · January 31st, 2007, 04:49 PM

That sounds great to me! So: Once I editied everything on fcp, I can play it back on the timeline and record it via firewire with my HD camera. Am I right?

If that's the case, I'm more than happy!

Sergio Ameijeiras · January 31st, 2007, 06:01 PM

Hi again,

I tried to capture the edited video with my camera, but I cannot get an HD video output with my firewire.
Just to confirm: I may have made a mistake before saying that I wanted to preview HD. I DON'T. I just want to record on tape what's been edited in fcp.
In "video output" in fcp the output "NTSC firewire" goes missing, therefore I cannot see anything on my camera's LCD.

Any ideas?

Thanks a lot

Sergio

Luis de la Cerda · January 31st, 2007, 09:37 PM

SpeedEdit allows for previewing hdv over firewire as you edit, so I guess it's not that it can't be done, but other nle developers have yet to implement the functionality on their systems.

January 31st, 2007, 03:42 PM	#1
Sergio Ameijeiras Tourist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 4	Can I preview HDV on fcp 5.1.2 via firewire? Hi all, This is my first post, so go easy on me guys!! I'm fairly new to the "video editing" world, I just bought an Intel iMac 20" and a Sony HC3 (HD). I used SD cameras and Windows based programs in the past, so I'm not entirely new to this world. My problem is that because I am so lost and confused with this HDV format war I decided to capture everything in HD, edit in HD and then create a SD DVD. But while these formats kill each other I want to keep the HD master somehow. The idea that came to my mind was to capture on the HC3 via the HDVin (firewire) the entire already edited HD project from fcp, but I've been having problems trying to make this work. I can't get this HDVin to work. Am I trying to do something impossible here?? If that's the case, which way do you recommend me to follow to keep my HD master on a miniDV tape for future HD authoring? I really hope somebody can help me out. Thanks a lot guys! Sergio

January 31st, 2007, 04:39 PM	#3
Sergio Ameijeiras Tourist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 4	Can I preview HDV on fcp 5.1.2 via firewire? Thanks for the info Boyd! My only question is if I go for the Matrox MXO, how can I then capture on tape the HD content? Do I connect the camera to this box? Thanks again Sergio

January 31st, 2007, 04:22 PM	#2
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Welcome to DVinfo Sergio! Unfortunately you cannot get realtime previews of HDV over firewire like you can with regular DV. Your alternative would be a second computer monitor running in "Digital Cinema Desktop" mode in FCP. The Matrox MXO is a cool option, but I'm not sure if it would work with an iMac. You might find these threads interesting: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=83917 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=84443 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=84129 http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=82391

January 31st, 2007, 04:46 PM	#4
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	There's no problem capturing HDV over firewire, and you can use Print to Video to send your finished project back to the camera over firewire. But you cannot use firewire to monitor HDV as you edit.

January 31st, 2007, 04:49 PM	#5
Sergio Ameijeiras Tourist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 4	That sounds great to me! So: Once I editied everything on fcp, I can play it back on the timeline and record it via firewire with my HD camera. Am I right? If that's the case, I'm more than happy!

January 31st, 2007, 06:01 PM	#6
Sergio Ameijeiras Tourist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, UK Posts: 4	Hi again, I tried to capture the edited video with my camera, but I cannot get an HD video output with my firewire. Just to confirm: I may have made a mistake before saying that I wanted to preview HD. I DON'T. I just want to record on tape what's been edited in fcp. In "video output" in fcp the output "NTSC firewire" goes missing, therefore I cannot see anything on my camera's LCD. Any ideas? Thanks a lot Sergio

January 31st, 2007, 09:37 PM	#7
Luis de la Cerda Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mexico City Posts: 181	SpeedEdit allows for previewing hdv over firewire as you edit, so I guess it's not that it can't be done, but other nle developers have yet to implement the functionality on their systems.