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Old February 1st, 2005, 01:05 AM   #16
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<<<-- Originally posted by Will Fastie : Tape has better archival qualities than writable optical discs. Tape remains the prefered archival medium in the information technology world.

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Last year I had occasion to look at some tapes recorded with my original Sony Video 8 camera. Those tapes are fine. I also looked at some older manufactured CDs (i.e., stamped, not burned) that were younger than those old video tapes. A few of the CDs had started to deteriorate and could not be read.

It was the first time I came face-to-face with the mortality of CDs and it did not make me feel good about my large DVD collection. It is the dirty little secret of optical media. -->>>


I don't think it is fair to compare your camera tapes with your audio CD. You probably stored your tapes carefully without using them often whereas I believe you listened your audio CD a number of times.

My own 15 years old CD are fine unless there are scratches (accidents happen). My VHS tapes quickly lost colors or were unreadable after a few years. So I was really happy when the DVD arrived.

I don't think CD and DVD are the best support ever but I really don't like tapes. Maybe I am paranoid, I always make a backup on an external hard drive and on DVD.


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Old February 1st, 2005, 10:58 AM   #17
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Benjamin:

You make a good point about using audio CDs frequently.

In my case, however, these were data CDs intended for archival storage and used very infrequently. In storage, they delaminated. I surely don't have hardened storage. My video tapes and data CDs are stored in the same area of my house, so they are subjected to the same environment.

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Old February 1st, 2005, 02:58 PM   #18
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Yeah..... but floppy disks are still worse! >.<
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Old March 1st, 2005, 01:37 AM   #19
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I'm amazed that no one has mentioned the FIRESTORE and like devices.

I work in the NOW and the NEAR FUTURE...


We need to make $ now and plan to make $ tomorrow

forget about yestarday....

What do you guys think of the FIRESTORE?
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Old March 1st, 2005, 08:02 AM   #20
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Hard disk is the future, no question, especially for pros. Fujitsu just jumped into the small form factor hard drive fray with plans for a 2-1/2" 120GB drive, which is enough to hold 10 hours of AVI, less for HD of course.

That still does not address the issue of archive.
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Old March 1st, 2005, 08:25 AM   #21
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Brent, the reason we haven't mentioned FireStore (and I am a big fan of that concept) is because this thread is about built-in drives, not external (for those not aware, FireStore is an external add-on, see our dedicated FireStore forum for more info). While there have been a handful of higher-end, very expensive video cameras with built-in drives, what I'm really curious about are the more affordable prosumer cameras and consumer camcorders finally getting built-in drives. JVC is at least taking steps in the right direction.

Please direct all FireStore discussion to our dedicated FireStore forum. Thanks,
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Old March 1st, 2005, 04:12 PM   #22
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Chris...So true... thanks

I can't wait for built in hard-drives....


In the meantime I think firestore is a fantastic option...

Because U are getting tape and digital simaltaneously...

One for archive, one for quick editing....


The problem is the price of these units... and the batt time.
I can deal with the battery time on the firestore's
Just not the price:)

I will go to the firestore thread now!

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Old March 2nd, 2005, 07:34 PM   #23
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Not only is JVC going microdrive for it's size, but they are less prone to bad-writes due to vibration or other physical hiccups caused by the user (running while recording, in-car, etc. than the 2.5" laptop counterparts.

I still wait for the day of high capacity solid state drives. No moving parts are what we DV folk really need.

As for CD/DVD media, I archive to Taijo Yuden discs, but keep any absolutely important stuff on tape (in addition to the CD media). I am now considering investing in 1 or 2 high capacity hard disks with an enclosure strictly for archiving, and stored in a safe dry place (a fireproof safe perhaps?).
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