JVC entering with hd Everio at DVinfo.net

Kurth Bousman · September 3rd, 2006, 06:27 PM

Maybe this belongs in Axxa xx , but , hey if engadget says so , then ...

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/03/j...everio-at-ifa/

Ken Hodson · September 23rd, 2006, 05:55 PM

At this point it is a guess on what codec it will use. I don't know if JVC has officially joined the AVCHD group yet. I think it is just Sony/Pana right now. It could just be a tapeless HDV varient/ HDVD or whatever they will call it. My gut tells me it will be some form of Mpeg4 like AVCHD or else they could have had it on the market by now.

Steve Nunez · September 23rd, 2006, 07:14 PM

I'm keeping my eyes on this unit. Let's hope it doesn't implement AVCHD and records an MPEG-2 type stream (ts??) or other codec that can be transcoded easily to HDV. Keeping my fingers crossed for a sub $2500 price.

Paulo Teixeira · September 24th, 2006, 09:31 AM

It obviously not going to use AVCHD as the compression and I don’t think JVC will use any form of MPEG4 although I would have preferred AVC/H.264 but I think JVC will definitely use MPEG2 no matter what.
To be aggressive, I suspect the price to be in the 1500 dollar range.

Ken Hodson · September 24th, 2006, 01:52 PM

Just for clarity MPEG-4 AVC = (H.264). What makes it so obvious to you Paulo, that they will use mpeg2?

Steve Nunez · September 24th, 2006, 03:11 PM

...probably because they'd likely state that it would be using one of those codecs if it actually did indeed use them- the omission could signal the more "normal" mpeg-2 compression.
Just my 2 cents!

Paulo Teixeira · September 24th, 2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Hodson

Just for clarity MPEG-4 AVC = (H.264). What makes it so obvious to you Paulo, that they will use mpeg2?

I never said it was different. I just would have preferred that they use the AVC version of MP4. As for the second part of you question, it’s just an educated guess which is why I used “I think” instead of “I know” I figured if they were going to use MP4 as the compression then they would have bought the rights to use AVCHD.

OK, I do admit I should have used better words.

Come to think of it, it would have been a smart move to use Windows Media HD as the compression. I wonder if any company will take that advice.

Ken Hodson · September 25th, 2006, 11:40 PM

I'm not sure why Quicktime or WMV is not mentioned. Must be price.

Mark Goldberg · September 27th, 2006, 07:19 PM

I suspect that the recording format with be 720P30 (or 25 in PAL countries) to keep in line with JVC's prior offerings. Their early HD-10 and subsequent Pro-100 camcorder line is based on 720P, so I would be surprised to see them go 1080.

Steve Nunez · September 27th, 2006, 07:23 PM

720p sign me up! I hate 1080i (1080p is another thing!!!)

September 3rd, 2006, 06:27 PM	#1
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	JVC entering with hd Everio Maybe this belongs in Axxa xx , but , hey if engadget says so , then ... http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/03/j...everio-at-ifa/

September 23rd, 2006, 05:55 PM	#2
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	At this point it is a guess on what codec it will use. I don't know if JVC has officially joined the AVCHD group yet. I think it is just Sony/Pana right now. It could just be a tapeless HDV varient/ HDVD or whatever they will call it. My gut tells me it will be some form of Mpeg4 like AVCHD or else they could have had it on the market by now. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

September 23rd, 2006, 07:14 PM	#3
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	I'm keeping my eyes on this unit. Let's hope it doesn't implement AVCHD and records an MPEG-2 type stream (ts??) or other codec that can be transcoded easily to HDV. Keeping my fingers crossed for a sub $2500 price. __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

September 24th, 2006, 01:52 PM	#5
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	Just for clarity MPEG-4 AVC = (H.264). What makes it so obvious to you Paulo, that they will use mpeg2? __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

September 24th, 2006, 03:11 PM	#6
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	...probably because they'd likely state that it would be using one of those codecs if it actually did indeed use them- the omission could signal the more "normal" mpeg-2 compression. Just my 2 cents! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

September 24th, 2006, 09:31 AM	#4
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	It obviously not going to use AVCHD as the compression and I don’t think JVC will use any form of MPEG4 although I would have preferred AVC/H.264 but I think JVC will definitely use MPEG2 no matter what. To be aggressive, I suspect the price to be in the 1500 dollar range.

September 25th, 2006, 11:40 PM	#8
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	I'm not sure why Quicktime or WMV is not mentioned. Must be price. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

September 27th, 2006, 07:19 PM	#9
Mark Goldberg Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland Posts: 101	I suspect that the recording format with be 720P30 (or 25 in PAL countries) to keep in line with JVC's prior offerings. Their early HD-10 and subsequent Pro-100 camcorder line is based on 720P, so I would be surprised to see them go 1080.

September 27th, 2006, 07:23 PM	#10
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	720p sign me up! I hate 1080i (1080p is another thing!!!) __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com