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JVC Everio GZ-HD and GZ-HM Series
JVC's Everio Series 3CCD High Definition MPEG2 camcorders.


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Old January 7th, 2007, 02:47 PM   #16
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Paulo,

I'm guessing the AVCHD cameras will be it, though I wonder if there will be a new HDV Sony consumer camera. This thread talks about the disappearance of the HC3 at www.sonystyle.com, which Paulo pointed out that CES may have something:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=83024

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Old January 7th, 2007, 03:22 PM   #17
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Heath, let's hope no clipping problems.....I don't think it'll do 720p30- although 720p30 seems to be left behind with all the current 1080 cams coming out. I haven't been so excited about a cam since the XH A1!
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Old January 7th, 2007, 04:55 PM   #18
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This could be a great POV and backup cam for event work. There are a few important questions. What is the recording format? If AVCHD, does it include software to allow that to be editing with HDV material in an application like Vegas? Also important - does it have an external microphone jack? Sony nixed this on its C3 and Canon nixed it on their HV10.
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Old January 7th, 2007, 05:02 PM   #19
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Mark- I believe I read somewhere JVC is not part of the consortium that supports cams that use the AVCHD format- so I'm pretty sure it wont shoot to that format.
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Old January 7th, 2007, 05:30 PM   #20
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"and an HDV Compatible mode with a resolution of 1440 x 1080i"

So it doesn't really matter what other formats it can record in as you can always use this mode and import into any NLE that suppors native HDV.

What concerns me the most with this camera is:

Sensitivity (1/5" gona suk)
Mic in ability
Battery life (always a concern with JVC)
Manual control abilities
10x zoom isn't the greatest (& how wide is 3.3mm on a 1/5" 16:9 sensor)?

"Because the pixel-shift system uses progressive scan CCDs, signals are processed first as 1920 x 1080p progressive signals, then converted to 1920 x 1080i interlace signals for recording."

Does this mean that it is actually recording 1920x1080P? and just using an interlaced recording format to put it to disk (where two interlaced field can be used to form a single progressive frame).
I wonder if there will be a Pro version of this to come at NAB 2007?
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Old January 7th, 2007, 05:48 PM   #21
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In that press release, it mentions this:

JVCs newly developed Gigabrid engine improves picture quality throughout the line-up by integrating various noise reduction technologies to increase the signal-to-noise ratio by about 30 percent (3dB) over previous models. All 2007 Everio models feature shooting sensitivity equal to or better than previous models. CCD image sensors in the line-up range from 680k pixels to 5.37megapixels, tailored for various shooting needs.

They still should have tried making the CCDs a little bit bigger considering the Panasonic SD1 has CCDs.
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Old January 7th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #22
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Not to mention that JVC cameras are notoriously noisy in gain so this improvement 'may' get them at least closer to a level playing field with the likes of Sony. It certainly won't put them ahead though.
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Old January 7th, 2007, 06:00 PM   #23
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If at the very least it eclipses the performance of the HD1/HD10U series- they'd be on the right track, 1/5" sensors are indeed small!
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Old January 7th, 2007, 06:03 PM   #24
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Once again, we can't get the best of both the worlds of 1920x1080 CCD/CMOS chips and the world of square pixel 1920x1080 recording...

Hopefully later on this year a camera will come out in the under $10,000 range that provides all that AND a mic in.
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Old January 7th, 2007, 09:09 PM   #25
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No one knows if this cam has "mic in" yet- but the original high end Everio MC500 3CCD camera did NOT have a mic in yet the newer revised 505 DOES- and it is a VERY similar form factor to this HD version- so we might be all surprised to find this HD version does have a mic in (surprised if it didn't).....we'll have to wait and see.

(If anyone here is going to the CES show- might you look into this apect??)
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Old January 7th, 2007, 09:24 PM   #26
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While this looks like it will be a great little cam, even sensitivity might not be 'too' bad with a not too high pixel count CCD using offset for resolution and improved gain performance I am hoping this is showing the possibility of something like a Pro version of this at NAB which is only 3 months away.

I have to admit though I should not hold my breath, its not like JVC really have any other Pro version of a consumer cam. Pro & consumer don't seem to interact at all at JVC. The 10U and 1U both came from the Pro department didn't they? The Pro department have been pretty busy as well with the HD200 and HD250.

One can live in hope though.
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Old January 7th, 2007, 09:34 PM   #27
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Guy- if I recall correctly- the HD10U was considered a "pro" model and handled via JVC's "pro" division as where the HD1U was considered a consumer camcorder and handled by the "consumer" division....I'd check with the forum dedicated to them- but I think they were different dept cams!

(I have owned both and still have a HD1U)
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Old January 7th, 2007, 09:39 PM   #28
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Agreed that was the way they were marketed and maybe even distributed but I seriously doubt the consumer devision developed the 1U.

I'd rather see the Pro department make a consumer version of a Pro camera (like I think happened with the 10U/1U) than the consumer department try to make a "Pro" version of one of their models.

Its all speculation of course.
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Old January 8th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #29
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Mic input confirmed.

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/1195...hd7_camcorder/

Should be a nice little camera. Hopefully the picture quality is up to snuff. Sounds like they're being fairly conscious of the avg. consumer and throwing in a complete software editing solution with the package. Not that a video camera manufacturer would ever sell you a camera with an uneditable video format heh.
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Old January 8th, 2007, 05:28 AM   #30
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release date?

would be nice:)
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