PAL version of the JY-HD10U?

Barry Green · August 29th, 2003, 12:36 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Patrick Bower :
Presumably the Sony PDX10 will shoot 16x9 in 1280x576 resolution, but only interlaced. The DVX100 would, in progressive, with an anamorphic adapter.
Patrick -->>>

As Ken said, there's nothing about 16x9 that changes pixel resolution. PAL 16:9 DV is 720 x 576, the same as PAL 4:3 DV. A DVX100 is going to shoot 720 x 576 whether it uses an anamorphic adapter or not.

DV is 720 x 576 (PAL) or 720 x 480 (NTSC). If video is compliant with the DV standard, it will be recorded and encoded at those pixel resolutions. The only thing that changes is whether the display device is told to interpret those pixels as "tall" 4:3 or "wide" 16:9.

Ken Hodson · August 29th, 2003, 01:09 PM

So whats with my codec doc's then? I always believed that anamorphic was as stated, but true 16:9 used the resolutions my codec doc's state.
I am confused now.

John Eriksson · August 29th, 2003, 02:55 PM

Can I get a smooth 24fps slowmotion by shooting in the SD mode? I mean because of it´s high framrate (60fps)?

Barry Green · August 29th, 2003, 03:06 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Hodson : So whats with my codec doc's then? -->>>

I don't know. Maybe it's referring to some HD format. But DV and all its variants (DVCAM, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, etc) are all 720 x 480 (or 720 x 576 for PAL). A native 16:9 camera like the DSR570WS still records all its imagery in 720 x 480. The PDX10, in 16:9 mode, records in 720 x 480.

Any size that varies from those dimensions will not be DV-compliant, so it must be referring to some HD or streaming size.

Barry Green · August 29th, 2003, 03:10 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Eriksson : Can I get a smooth 24fps slowmotion by shooting in the SD mode? I mean because of it´s high framrate (60fps)? -->>>

Theoretically you should be able to get exquisite slow motion, with motion rendering comparable to the VariCam, by shooting in 60fps. But, you're sacrificing the HD image resolution in exchange for higher temporal resolution, so I don't know if the two would intercut well. If you want to shoot your entire project in SD 16:9 MPEG2 mode, you should be able to get the best slow motion possible on any SD-format camera (making allowances for the camera's other limitations, such as narrow latitude, etc).

John Eriksson · August 29th, 2003, 03:25 PM

Thank you!

August 29th, 2003, 01:09 PM	#17
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	So whats with my codec doc's then? I always believed that anamorphic was as stated, but true 16:9 used the resolutions my codec doc's state. I am confused now. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

August 29th, 2003, 03:25 PM	#21
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	Thank you! Thank you!

August 29th, 2003, 12:36 PM	#16
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	<<<-- Originally posted by Patrick Bower : Presumably the Sony PDX10 will shoot 16x9 in 1280x576 resolution, but only interlaced. The DVX100 would, in progressive, with an anamorphic adapter. Patrick -->>> As Ken said, there's nothing about 16x9 that changes pixel resolution. PAL 16:9 DV is 720 x 576, the same as PAL 4:3 DV. A DVX100 is going to shoot 720 x 576 whether it uses an anamorphic adapter or not. DV is 720 x 576 (PAL) or 720 x 480 (NTSC). If video is compliant with the DV standard, it will be recorded and encoded at those pixel resolutions. The only thing that changes is whether the display device is told to interpret those pixels as "tall" 4:3 or "wide" 16:9.

August 29th, 2003, 02:55 PM	#18
John Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 57	Can I get a smooth 24fps slowmotion by shooting in the SD mode? I mean because of it´s high framrate (60fps)?

August 29th, 2003, 03:06 PM	#19
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	<<<-- Originally posted by Ken Hodson : So whats with my codec doc's then? -->>> I don't know. Maybe it's referring to some HD format. But DV and all its variants (DVCAM, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, etc) are all 720 x 480 (or 720 x 576 for PAL). A native 16:9 camera like the DSR570WS still records all its imagery in 720 x 480. The PDX10, in 16:9 mode, records in 720 x 480. Any size that varies from those dimensions will not be DV-compliant, so it must be referring to some HD or streaming size.

August 29th, 2003, 03:10 PM	#20
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	<<<-- Originally posted by John Eriksson : Can I get a smooth 24fps slowmotion by shooting in the SD mode? I mean because of it´s high framrate (60fps)? -->>> Theoretically you should be able to get exquisite slow motion, with motion rendering comparable to the VariCam, by shooting in 60fps. But, you're sacrificing the HD image resolution in exchange for higher temporal resolution, so I don't know if the two would intercut well. If you want to shoot your entire project in SD 16:9 MPEG2 mode, you should be able to get the best slow motion possible on any SD-format camera (making allowances for the camera's other limitations, such as narrow latitude, etc).