Who's making money with their HD10?

Bill Piedra · May 19th, 2004, 03:13 PM

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought that the Bravo DVD Player did play Windows Media 9 in HD.

Heath McKnight · May 19th, 2004, 03:31 PM

You're probably right, but still, that's a very small percent of the market, and most people who have bought new DVD players likely WON'T buy an HD/WM9 DVD player for a while, unless they have an HDTV.

heath

Heath McKnight · May 19th, 2004, 04:05 PM

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Heath McKnight · May 19th, 2004, 04:20 PM

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Bill Piedra · May 19th, 2004, 04:36 PM

Thats pretty true. I was guessing that some videophile Grooms might really like to get an HD DVD Player as part of the package, and at the same time downconvert the entire video to also produce SD DVD's for family and other participants in the wedding.

Just my two cents.

Alex Raskin · May 19th, 2004, 04:54 PM

Bravo D3 DVD should be able to play Windows Media when it is released.

However right now it is in "preliminary design stage", according to the manufacturer's email I received today.

Just FYI.

(And yes, I'm waiting for it just like you are! :)

Christopher C. Murphy · May 19th, 2004, 05:39 PM

Wow! Some awesome ideas!!

To take it one step further, I was thinking about doing this...

"Everyone dreams of the perfect Hollywood romance. Now, you can live it and have the movie to premiere for all your family and friends." (something like that)

What I'd like to do is spend a day prior to the wedding with the couple shooting a short "movie". I'll shoot them on the beach, at home...something whimsy and romantic. (interwoven with photos from their relationship, no audio from them, just mood music that uses their favorite tunes)

That'll be on the DVD as "A Love Story" or something like that...and also "Interviews" with family/friends and the actual wedding. I'll do the wedding as a "Documentry"...no fancy stuff like on the "A Love Story".

How does that sound? Something unique on a DVD.

murph

Heath McKnight · May 19th, 2004, 10:51 PM

That's cool, Murph. I should suggest that to my friend who does weddings.

heath

Bill Piedra · May 20th, 2004, 10:22 AM

That sounds like a really cool idea Chris. I bet it would be easy to sell if you presented at one of those wedding shows on a real nice looking HDTV. I'm pretty sure you can rent some of the higher end ones.

You could also pitch the customers with 'preserving their precious memories in the TV Format of the future' as a selling point for HD.

Erik Rangel · May 20th, 2004, 01:09 PM

Murph,
That's a great idea. you should really follow through on that. Anything to keep busy right? I hear you on the whole "in debt" thing but it's something we have to do in order to make our ideas into reality, right?

I have only made a little bit of money selling copies of my HDV short to friends and family. SD DVD, I still haven't tried the whole WM9 HDDVD.

Heath McKnight · May 20th, 2004, 01:12 PM

You can always go market the HDV to a company to make corporate videos. But drop the V and make it HD! ;-)

heath

Bill Piedra · May 20th, 2004, 01:20 PM

In actuality it is HD! The medium that we're using to record it is HDV, but the net product (those actualy mpg tranport streams) are pretty much what the cable and satellite companies are delivering now and calling HD.

Heath McKnight · May 20th, 2004, 01:25 PM

Good point.

hwm

Christopher C. Murphy · May 20th, 2004, 01:44 PM

100% HD if you look at the specs. It's the bottom of the barrel HD, but hey...who cares? The fact is that no one cares except the people on this board because we're "in the know" regarding the minute details of "TS" vs. "PS". When you get down to it...we definately can deliver a product that "matches or comes very close"to high definition productions that cost 10 times as much. We've all read and heard it multiple times from people - our camera makes a comparable image. It also has the resolution of what is "standards based" HD. Therefore, just like the previous poster said...we shoot HD!

Hey, Heath...go ahead and tell your friend my idea. There ain't no competition on here, and I really like that a lot.

FYI - I've just applied for another network affiliate job in my area. (ABC affiliate) I'm broke, so I need a job that pays weekly again....spent all my cash on HD(V)! Wish me luck, it's for shooting and editing one of the most popular shows in New England.

Murph

Ed Hill · May 20th, 2004, 06:34 PM

We have paying customers for a docudrama we're editing now & a cooking show coming up.

The last day of our doc shoot, we were on the Franklin St Bridge
near the MLK center, getting the shot of downtown Atlanta skyscrapers (Guess every video shooter in ATL goes there) . A producer and cameraman/DP roll up
with a rented Sony Cine_Alta for a documentary they're shooting on a former president of Notre Dame Univ. So we compared notes on lighting and cameras.

They had a nice lens, bridge plate, matte box, filters. I'd love to have the huge budget (& profit!) to rent the Cine Alta or Varicam.

But nice to know I can do Hi Def TV on a small budget.

Ed Hill

May 19th, 2004, 03:31 PM	#17
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	You're probably right, but still, that's a very small percent of the market, and most people who have bought new DVD players likely WON'T buy an HD/WM9 DVD player for a while, unless they have an HDTV. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 19th, 2004, 04:05 PM	#18
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	There's all kinds of business tips -- like how not to get in trouble, how to do things right, not get scammed, etc. -- in our Taking Care of Business forum. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 19th, 2004, 04:20 PM	#19
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Also, to help find gigs worldwide, check out our Helping Hands forum! heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 19th, 2004, 05:39 PM	#22
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	Wow! Some awesome ideas!! To take it one step further, I was thinking about doing this... "Everyone dreams of the perfect Hollywood romance. Now, you can live it and have the movie to premiere for all your family and friends." (something like that) What I'd like to do is spend a day prior to the wedding with the couple shooting a short "movie". I'll shoot them on the beach, at home...something whimsy and romantic. (interwoven with photos from their relationship, no audio from them, just mood music that uses their favorite tunes) That'll be on the DVD as "A Love Story" or something like that...and also "Interviews" with family/friends and the actual wedding. I'll do the wedding as a "Documentry"...no fancy stuff like on the "A Love Story". How does that sound? Something unique on a DVD. murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

May 19th, 2004, 10:51 PM	#23
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	That's cool, Murph. I should suggest that to my friend who does weddings. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 19th, 2004, 03:13 PM	#16
Bill Piedra Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Manchester CT USA Posts: 109	Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought that the Bravo DVD Player did play Windows Media 9 in HD.

May 19th, 2004, 04:36 PM	#20
Bill Piedra Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Manchester CT USA Posts: 109	Thats pretty true. I was guessing that some videophile Grooms might really like to get an HD DVD Player as part of the package, and at the same time downconvert the entire video to also produce SD DVD's for family and other participants in the wedding. Just my two cents.

May 19th, 2004, 04:54 PM	#21
Alex Raskin Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,435	Bravo D3 DVD should be able to play Windows Media when it is released. However right now it is in "preliminary design stage", according to the manufacturer's email I received today. Just FYI. (And yes, I'm waiting for it just like you are! :)

May 20th, 2004, 10:22 AM	#24
Bill Piedra Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Manchester CT USA Posts: 109	That sounds like a really cool idea Chris. I bet it would be easy to sell if you presented at one of those wedding shows on a real nice looking HDTV. I'm pretty sure you can rent some of the higher end ones. You could also pitch the customers with 'preserving their precious memories in the TV Format of the future' as a selling point for HD.

May 20th, 2004, 01:09 PM	#25
Erik Rangel Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 125	Murph, That's a great idea. you should really follow through on that. Anything to keep busy right? I hear you on the whole "in debt" thing but it's something we have to do in order to make our ideas into reality, right? I have only made a little bit of money selling copies of my HDV short to friends and family. SD DVD, I still haven't tried the whole WM9 HDDVD. __________________ Erik Rangel www.inthemind.com

May 20th, 2004, 01:12 PM	#26
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	You can always go market the HDV to a company to make corporate videos. But drop the V and make it HD! ;-) heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 20th, 2004, 01:20 PM	#27
Bill Piedra Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Manchester CT USA Posts: 109	In actuality it is HD! The medium that we're using to record it is HDV, but the net product (those actualy mpg tranport streams) are pretty much what the cable and satellite companies are delivering now and calling HD.

May 20th, 2004, 01:25 PM	#28
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	Good point. hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 20th, 2004, 01:44 PM	#29
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	100% HD if you look at the specs. It's the bottom of the barrel HD, but hey...who cares? The fact is that no one cares except the people on this board because we're "in the know" regarding the minute details of "TS" vs. "PS". When you get down to it...we definately can deliver a product that "matches or comes very close"to high definition productions that cost 10 times as much. We've all read and heard it multiple times from people - our camera makes a comparable image. It also has the resolution of what is "standards based" HD. Therefore, just like the previous poster said...we shoot HD! Hey, Heath...go ahead and tell your friend my idea. There ain't no competition on here, and I really like that a lot. FYI - I've just applied for another network affiliate job in my area. (ABC affiliate) I'm broke, so I need a job that pays weekly again....spent all my cash on HD(V)! Wish me luck, it's for shooting and editing one of the most popular shows in New England. Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

May 20th, 2004, 06:34 PM	#30
Ed Hill Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 104	We have paying customers for a docudrama we're editing now & a cooking show coming up. The last day of our doc shoot, we were on the Franklin St Bridge near the MLK center, getting the shot of downtown Atlanta skyscrapers (Guess every video shooter in ATL goes there) . A producer and cameraman/DP roll up with a rented Sony Cine_Alta for a documentary they're shooting on a former president of Notre Dame Univ. So we compared notes on lighting and cameras. They had a nice lens, bridge plate, matte box, filters. I'd love to have the huge budget (& profit!) to rent the Cine Alta or Varicam. But nice to know I can do Hi Def TV on a small budget. Ed Hill __________________ Ed Hill HighlyDef Productions, Atlanta, GA prblog.edhillpr.com Video and Online Advertising ed@highlydef.com