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Old August 27th, 2007, 03:33 AM   #1
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HD 200 frame rate/shutter speed stills and video

The following are frame grabs and video that I shot today with the HD200 at varying frame rates and shutter speeds. All these were shot with Tim's DSC CDM28 Chart settings. I also used two ND fliters (most times), no gain, 20mm zoom, aperture ranging from 3.5 to 6.0. All shots were taken usiing one 4x4 Tiffen polarizing filter in a Chrosziel mattebox.

I shot all scenes within a half hour of each other so I could repeat the time of day, distance, action, etc. I hope this helps somebody back...

-update- all 30/60fps samples also available overcranked to 24fps.

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24fps @ 1/24 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...les/24_24_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...4shtr-BALL.mov

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24fps @ 1/48 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...les/24_48_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...8shtr-BALL.mov
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24fps @ 1/100 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...es/24_100_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov

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30fps @ 1/30 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...les/30_30_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov

OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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30fps @ 1/60 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...les/30_60_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov

OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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30fps @ 1/100 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...es/30_100_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov

OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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30fps @ 1/250 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...es/30_250_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov

OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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60fps @ 1/30 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...les/60_30_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov

OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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60fps @ 1/60 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...les/60_60_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov


OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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60fps @ 1/100 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...es/60_100_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov


OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

-----------------------------------------------------

60fps @ 1/250 shutter speed:
FRAME GRAB:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...es/60_250_.jpg

QUICKTIME VIDEO:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...0shtr-BALL.mov


OVERCRANKED TO 24fps:
http://www.gotagteam.com/QuicktimeVI...CRNK-24fps.mov

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Old August 27th, 2007, 05:19 AM   #2
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Thanks for the clips. I own an HD100 and was curious how 30p shot at 1/30 would look compared to the standard 1/60 shutter.

It looks like I could use 1/30 for low light wedding reception style events with minimal strobing.

It's nice to see the 60p footage of the HD200's. It looks really nice!
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Old August 27th, 2007, 10:16 AM   #3
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I agree Scott. I often wonder what look would work best where and why, so I finally just went out and shot the boat load of them. I'm uploading all of the 30 and 60fps samples overcranked to 24fps now. Glad it helped!
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Old April 10th, 2008, 02:08 AM   #4
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Yay Eric,
Always on the ball, never drops the ball!

This is a great reference for motion variation with frame rate and shutter.

I'd missed this last year, and it deserves a bump up the list.
Scott - if you're still following, strobing isn't a danger when slowing the shutter speed to 1/30 in 30p - it's blur that's an issue. It's more acceptable to the eye with a fixed camera, but watch out when you start panning.
Or grooving around handheld...

These settings all have a different reaction to CAMERA movement too, which one should get familiar with.
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Eric, can you repeat this test, while panning the camera at the several fixed rates throughout the settings. ...and without dropping the ball?

just kidding! (you have to be careful when posting in forums late at night)
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Old April 10th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #5
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Eric you deserve a HUGE pat on the back and thank you for doing this. I would imagine it could serve as an invaluable reference point to anyone starting out in video / film making. It's an immediate reference point.

It must have taken you ages!

You obviously have far too much time on your hands!

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I would imagine it could serve as an invaluable reference point to anyone starting out in video / film making. It's an immediate reference point.
If I may: I'm NOT just starting out and these examples opened my eyes greatly and are helping me to make an educated decision about MY next step. Many thanks!
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Old April 10th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #7
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You guys help me a thousand times more than I help back. I'm happy to hear the effort was worth while.

That damned medicine ball got heavy after a while.

Next test will be done with beach balls and bikinis, promise.


ps; Sean, if you only saw me on short stop last night... ;- )

<edit> - meaning, I dropped every ball

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Old April 11th, 2008, 01:54 PM   #8
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You guys help me a thousand times more than I help back. I'm happy to hear the effort was worth while.
Think nothing of it Eric. That's what this place is for!

Actually, you could be the perfect person to help me! My mate thinks he's proper clever. He's just bought a Fireblade and thinks it's excellent doing 275 kph on the Autobahn! Fun though it is, he's a muppett and thinks I'm a boring old git! Need to stop him before he kills himself!
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Stuart, tell him it's not the fall that rips your limbs off, it's what stops you. You won't ever see me in a full tuck on a highway. Get him out on the track, even just for track days (one fee, you ride all day as fast as you want, crash where you're expected to, ambulances there, etc. etc.). Once he's been on a track he'll ride the street like a grandpa. Hopefully..
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