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Mikael Widerberg January 17th, 2008 04:38 AM

What is recorded to tape
 
Hi,

Is there a way on the HD100 to conect a monitor/viewfinder when recording, so that you see what actually is recorded on the tape.

As for now, you are like a blind man. Three times I a have got no pictures (just a blue screen), only sound was recorded, and I only could see that after I actually recorded.

I have filmed like 200 tapes with it.

Its cind of sad, but I only use My JVC GY-HD100 for my own productions and not for importent customers. I Just dont trust this cam.

Stuart Campbell January 17th, 2008 05:42 AM

Do you mean you want to monitor Playback rather than E to E?

I think all the video outs monitor E to E.

Not sure on the Component out though. I think that's E to E as well.

Mikael Widerberg January 17th, 2008 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart Campbell (Post 809771)
Do you mean you want to monitor Playback rather than E to E?

I think all the video outs monitor E to E.

Not sure on the Component out though. I think that's E to E as well.


Well, I dont now what "E to E" is?

Brian Luce January 17th, 2008 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael Widerberg (Post 809763)
Hi,

Is there a way on the HD100 to conect a monitor/viewfinder when recording, so that you see what actually is recorded on the tape.

As for now, you are like a blind man. Three times I a have got no pictures (just a blue screen), only sound was recorded, and I only could see that after I actually recorded.

I have filmed like 200 tapes with it.

Its cind of sad, but I only use My JVC GY-HD100 for my own productions and not for importent customers. I Just dont trust this cam.

why didn't it record an image? Have you diagnosed that issue? Haven't heard about this issue before...

John Sirb January 17th, 2008 08:23 AM

I'm pretty sure the return video switch/button on the lens is E_E mode.

E to E mode is video coming off the head.
I learned many moons ago to press the RET video from time to time just to be sure. My DSR-300 could do this while recording. I havent tried it on the HD-200 yet

Corey Williams January 17th, 2008 02:30 PM

A friend of mine told me he had this problem once. He also said it was repaired with the firmware update.

Stuart Campbell January 18th, 2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by John Sirb (Post 809820)
E to E mode is video coming off the head.

As far as I was aware e-e is a clean processed signal input monitoring. This is a clean feed of an audio or video signal. It is Playback monitoring that comes from the head. For example, on beta cameras like a bvw400 or a digi bvw790 your sound man will normally want to monitor Playback from your camera instead of e-e so he can be sure the sound is going on the tape. He has the option of switching between the two on the camera. PB monitoring can be messy as you are listening directly from the head and the sound is distorted with timecode. If you listen to e-e you are only listening to the input signal and you can never be 100% certain that is what's being recorded!

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sirb (Post 809820)
I learned many moons ago to press the RET video from time to time just to be sure. My DSR-300 could do this while recording. I havent tried it on the HD-200 yet

This is good advice! I'd never shoot anything without using RET to confirm recording. You could have all sorts of things happen without realising!

Sean Adair January 19th, 2008 10:07 AM

Mikael: sounds like you need a service, or perhaps if you are lucky, there is a firmware upgrade you've missed that addresses this.
Getting no picture on your pro video camera could be "mildly inconvenient"!
Being old school, I started n the industry with 3/4" portable decks connected to 40lb tube cameras that needed alignment whenever transported. Cables were finicky, vectorscopes in the studio - OK - I'll get off that flow.
After we shoot the first shot, we played it back looking for any flaws.
When the shoot was finished, we spot checked the tape.
I never stopped doing that! Even though it's been awhile since I caught a problem (don't get me started again on the old days!)
The Ret button is a very convenient way of checking tape playback in a run & gun situation.
But you have to address your particular problem. It is NOT typical of these cameras. I work with 3 of the JVC pro-hd cams constantly, in high-stakes (for me!) professional work where thousands of dollars would be lost if that EVER once happened.


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