JVC’s br-hd50u alternative HDV Deck at DVinfo.net

Kim Wang · February 11th, 2008, 04:00 PM

Has any one use this Deck for payback of JVC’s 720/30p footage?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Walkman.html

Sony GV-HD700 HDV Video Walkman VCR

We need a deck to capture fotage from JVC HD110. Some site list 720p playback and yet some don’t.

We are using Premiere Pro Cs3 with BMD’s intensity Pro. We hope to use the Fire wire to control the deck and capture using HDMI as MJPED compression AVI.

The deck is affordable enough as capture beck. We don’t need it to record, as we plan to give the client final footage in Blue ray.

TIA
Kim W

Randy Johnson · February 12th, 2008, 07:11 AM

Wow! Its justs what ive been looking for but im sure theres a catch. My guess is it wont do 720p 30 (which is o.k. with me) Most of the sony decks I see will do 720p but only through analog. I dont know if you can use Firewire just for control and scene detection if you can where do I sign?!?!

Kim Wang · February 12th, 2008, 08:19 AM

I read somewhere that it play out 1080i (HDV2) & 720p (HDV1) too. Not sure is this is true. The 720p with not payout from fire wire but will do so from component and HDMI.
Anyone has here has one of this deck?

Kim W

Randy Johnson · February 12th, 2008, 08:36 AM

In my ealier post I said I didint think it would do 720p 30 I meant 720p 24. I cant find any info on it anywhere except sonys website but since its a consumer piece theres not much on it. I dont mind doing componmet or HDMI as long as the firewire can send the timecode data.

Tup Wright · February 12th, 2008, 01:58 PM

I found the manual

http://129.33.22.12/release/GVHD700.pdf

Here is the only mention of 720p:
"Your VCR can playback pictures recorded in the HDV 720/p30 format, but cannot output it from the HDV/DV (ilink) interface."

I think it might work for HDMI though...

Randy Johnson · February 13th, 2008, 08:39 PM

I dont know if it helps but I ran a test with a VX-2000 (sony DV) I hooked up the firewire BUT I took the s-video out to the intensity card. It took the video from the s and the control from the firewire so in theory your idea should work. Now who wants to put up the $1,000 to know for sure:)

Randy Johnson · February 13th, 2008, 08:49 PM

although you still dont have "Scene detection" but at least you can set an outpoint if you want to capture unattended.

Jeffrey Butler · February 27th, 2008, 10:15 PM

"It offers the ability to record SD resolution and playback HDV resolution, view content on its built-in 7" TFT 16:9 LCD screen, or output 1080i/720p signals to an HDTV through the HDMI output."

HDMI output could bring your JVC HDV stuff from your 200/250 out the HDMI and into your system via a Blackmagic card perhaps?

Kim Wang · February 29th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Can it up convert 720p from JVC to 1080 via HDMI & component? Maybe use fire wire to control the deck. And capture both 720p 04 1080i via BMD intensity pro.

Has any one invested in this deck yet?

TIA
Kim W

Randy Johnson · February 29th, 2008, 12:05 PM

I think my Sony DSR-30 is going to cost $1,000 or more to fix the Firewire. in that case it makes more sense to buy this deck. Im not doing much HD yet so I just need to DV deck.

Randy Johnson · February 29th, 2008, 01:59 PM

Right now theres a BR-HD50U on ebay for $600 current bid. I wish I had that money now id bid.

Glen Vandermolen · March 1st, 2008, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

Right now theres a BR-HD50U on ebay for $600 current bid. I wish I had that money now id bid.

Could you provide a link? I didn't see it on eBay.

Randy Johnson · March 1st, 2008, 12:25 PM

whoa its up to 1,500 now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-BR-HD50-HDV-...QQcmdZViewItem

Randy Johnson · March 1st, 2008, 04:35 PM

I think the bad part is that JVC looks like they will get out of the "tape" game with some of the newer cameras so decks are going to be harder and harder to come by.

Scott R. Smith · March 3rd, 2008, 01:02 AM

I've got two of the BR-50U decks. We use HDMI out into a Convergent Design HDConnectMI converter. http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_...DConnectMI.htm

We then come out HD-SDI into a Kona3 card. We normally stay in 720p because it's good to stick to a format, it's JVC's native format, and we like progressive scan better than interlaced, though I imagine we could import it just as easily as 1080i.

The good thing about this setup is that
A) You are no longer editing long GOP HDV, with all it's problems.
B) The Kona card does hardware conversions--so 1080i, 1080p, 720p, 480p, 480i, 486i are all converted on the import.
C) The video can be square-pixel instead of anamorphic.
D) You can import into any codec Final cut has to offer (i.e. Prores422)
E) You can import and edit at 720p, then use the Kona card to hardware convert on export to another format.

The Bad:
A) Kona3 cards are expensive.
B) Kona3 cards are expensive.

February 11th, 2008, 04:00 PM	#1
Kim Wang New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11	JVC’s br-hd50u alternative HDV Deck Has any one use this Deck for payback of JVC’s 720/30p footage? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...o_Walkman.html Sony GV-HD700 HDV Video Walkman VCR We need a deck to capture fotage from JVC HD110. Some site list 720p playback and yet some don’t. We are using Premiere Pro Cs3 with BMD’s intensity Pro. We hope to use the Fire wire to control the deck and capture using HDMI as MJPED compression AVI. The deck is affordable enough as capture beck. We don’t need it to record, as we plan to give the client final footage in Blue ray. TIA Kim W

February 27th, 2008, 10:15 PM	#8
Jeffrey Butler Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virgina, USA Posts: 276	From the Specs on B&H "It offers the ability to record SD resolution and playback HDV resolution, view content on its built-in 7" TFT 16:9 LCD screen, or output 1080i/720p signals to an HDTV through the HDMI output." HDMI output could bring your JVC HDV stuff from your 200/250 out the HDMI and into your system via a Blackmagic card perhaps? __________________ Jeff Butler Butler Films

March 3rd, 2008, 01:02 AM	#15
Scott R. Smith New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Clemson, SC Posts: 19	I've got two of the BR-50U decks. We use HDMI out into a Convergent Design HDConnectMI converter. http://www.convergent-design.com/CD_...DConnectMI.htm We then come out HD-SDI into a Kona3 card. We normally stay in 720p because it's good to stick to a format, it's JVC's native format, and we like progressive scan better than interlaced, though I imagine we could import it just as easily as 1080i. The good thing about this setup is that A) You are no longer editing long GOP HDV, with all it's problems. B) The Kona card does hardware conversions--so 1080i, 1080p, 720p, 480p, 480i, 486i are all converted on the import. C) The video can be square-pixel instead of anamorphic. D) You can import into any codec Final cut has to offer (i.e. Prores422) E) You can import and edit at 720p, then use the Kona card to hardware convert on export to another format. The Bad: A) Kona3 cards are expensive. B) Kona3 cards are expensive. Last edited by Scott R. Smith; March 3rd, 2008 at 08:21 AM. Reason: adding info

February 12th, 2008, 07:11 AM	#2
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Wow! Its justs what ive been looking for but im sure theres a catch. My guess is it wont do 720p 30 (which is o.k. with me) Most of the sony decks I see will do 720p but only through analog. I dont know if you can use Firewire just for control and scene detection if you can where do I sign?!?!

February 12th, 2008, 08:19 AM	#3
Kim Wang New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11	I read somewhere that it play out 1080i (HDV2) & 720p (HDV1) too. Not sure is this is true. The 720p with not payout from fire wire but will do so from component and HDMI. Anyone has here has one of this deck? Kim W

February 12th, 2008, 08:36 AM	#4
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	In my ealier post I said I didint think it would do 720p 30 I meant 720p 24. I cant find any info on it anywhere except sonys website but since its a consumer piece theres not much on it. I dont mind doing componmet or HDMI as long as the firewire can send the timecode data.

February 12th, 2008, 01:58 PM	#5
Tup Wright Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle, WA USA Posts: 83	I found the manual http://129.33.22.12/release/GVHD700.pdf Here is the only mention of 720p: "Your VCR can playback pictures recorded in the HDV 720/p30 format, but cannot output it from the HDV/DV (ilink) interface." I think it might work for HDMI though...

February 13th, 2008, 08:39 PM	#6
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I dont know if it helps but I ran a test with a VX-2000 (sony DV) I hooked up the firewire BUT I took the s-video out to the intensity card. It took the video from the s and the control from the firewire so in theory your idea should work. Now who wants to put up the $1,000 to know for sure:)

February 13th, 2008, 08:49 PM	#7
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	although you still dont have "Scene detection" but at least you can set an outpoint if you want to capture unattended.

February 29th, 2008, 09:33 AM	#9
Kim Wang New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11	Can it up convert 720p from JVC to 1080 via HDMI & component? Maybe use fire wire to control the deck. And capture both 720p 04 1080i via BMD intensity pro. Has any one invested in this deck yet? TIA Kim W

February 29th, 2008, 12:05 PM	#10
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I think my Sony DSR-30 is going to cost $1,000 or more to fix the Firewire. in that case it makes more sense to buy this deck. Im not doing much HD yet so I just need to DV deck.

February 29th, 2008, 01:59 PM	#11
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Right now theres a BR-HD50U on ebay for $600 current bid. I wish I had that money now id bid.

March 1st, 2008, 12:25 PM	#13
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	whoa its up to 1,500 now. http://cgi.ebay.com/JVC-BR-HD50-HDV-...QQcmdZViewItem

March 1st, 2008, 04:35 PM	#14
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I think the bad part is that JVC looks like they will get out of the "tape" game with some of the newer cameras so decks are going to be harder and harder to come by.