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Old April 26th, 2008, 09:26 PM   #1
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B&W/Desaturate in camera?

Hey guys, I am doing a shoot in a week that the final product will be in black and white. I would just desaturate it in post, except that I am not doing the post. Plus, it would be nice to see how my lighting looks in B&W on my on-set monitor

That being said, I tried tonight to desaturate in camera by turning down the color gain, but that didn't totally remove all the color. Does anyone know if there are other settings I can use with the color gain to desaturate?

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Old April 26th, 2008, 11:11 PM   #2
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That being said, I tried tonight to desaturate in camera by turning down the color gain, but that didn't totally remove all the color. Does anyone know if there are other settings I can use with the color gain to desaturate?
Color Gain will totally desaturate, but you have to turn it all the way down to MIN or OFF.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 06:58 AM   #3
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Color Gain will totally desaturate, but you have to turn it all the way down to MIN or OFF.
Tried that, but the color yellow was still coming through--at least that's what I was seeing on the LCD.

If I can't get it any more desaturated, then I'll live with that and they can finish the last little bit of desaturating in post, but I'd still like to know exactly what I am giving them.

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Old April 27th, 2008, 09:30 AM   #4
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My camera is totally de-saturated when the color gain is completely down. You could try taking the green channel out of the camera into a monitor and reduce the monitor's color gain, too. This should give you a monochrome pix at any rate.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 11:34 AM   #5
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color gain to off should be 100% without color.

If you see color, something is not right.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 12:04 PM   #6
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color gain to off should be 100% without color.

If you see color, something is not right.
Humm, worked this time. Must have only gotten it to min instead of off last time.

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Old April 28th, 2008, 04:24 PM   #7
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Can you simply turn down the chroma on your on-set monitor, or does it have a black-and-white mode? The reason I say this is because there are different ways you can desaturate footage in post based on using different color channels that yield results that look more like black-and-white film stocks. It might be nice to have those options in post by shooting in color but monitoring in black-and-white.

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Old April 28th, 2008, 04:31 PM   #8
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Can you simply turn down the chroma on your on-set monitor, or does it have a black-and-white mode? The reason I say this is because there are different ways you can desaturate footage in post based on using different color channels that yield results that look more like black-and-white film stocks. It might be nice to have those options in post by shooting in color but monitoring in black-and-white.
I would do that if *I* was doing the post production on this piece. However, I am not and considering the other stuff I've seen come out of this company, I want to make sure I get them the best possible footage, because they will degrade it quite a bit in post...sigh....

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