HD100u video clip. People holding etc

Barry Green · May 13th, 2005, 01:14 AM

Bypassing the stock lens is not a budgetary option for probably most buyers. The optional wide-angle lens carries a retail price of about $12,000.

Steve Roark · May 13th, 2005, 02:31 AM

$12,000? I though it was going to be around $6,000...Oh, well, either price is out of my budget for now. What I'd love to see is an adapter for nikon SLR lenses in the near future.

Steve

Dave Frank · May 13th, 2005, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Roark

$12,000? I though it was going to be around $6,000...Oh, well, either price is out of my budget for now. What I'd love to see is an adapter for nikon SLR lenses in the near future.

Steve

Look no further...

http://www.prohd.co.uk/page7/page7.html

Steve Roark · May 13th, 2005, 07:42 AM

According to the webmaster on that site. There are no optics inside the adapter (so there's no reason to expect this to be too expensive). And, the magification factor would be about 7xs. That means a 20mm W/A SLR lens becomes a 140mm telephoto? Great for wildlife and moon shots, not so great for indoor shooting. Definitely would need a rock-solid tripod with this thing on.

Thanks for the tip.
Steve

Dave Frank · May 14th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Exactly Steve. It's just the adaptor to attach the lens. No relay lens/ground glass system certainly. If you want a mini35, don't worry. P+S Teknik was showing off a prototype at NAB of the new mini35 for the JVC. They said it will be out as soon as the camera gets released.

Joe Carney · May 14th, 2005, 08:08 PM

Dave, thats why I'm not worried about lenses for this camera.

Jacques Mersereau · May 15th, 2005, 10:03 AM

Exactly. I was wondering why all the hubub about the "stock" lens?
IMO, this is a camera HEAD. What I like is that with 1/3" chips is
the 7.2 magnification factor provided by 'non glass' adapters using 35mm
glass AND/OR (almost) ANY lens @ 1:1 with a PS Technik.
That coupled with real 1280x720 CCDs and uncompressed 292M HDSDI
output makes this camera bigger than the VX1K when it burst
the "must have huge bucks" balloon.

Granted, it will still take huge bucks to get an entire 'real' HD system
together, but when the camera head is $5K instead of $60K, that is a
significant step in price reduction. There is a further price reduction
if lens one already owns can be made to work. That is about as good
a deal as you'll ever get for a massive upgrade in quality.

Barry Green · May 15th, 2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Mersereau

and uncompressed 292M HDSDI
output

Don't know where you heard that, but there's no 292M HDSDI output on this camera at all. The only HD outputs are either a) the compressed MPEG-2 through firewire, or b) analog component.

You can get an external analog-to-HDSDI converter, but that's nowhere near the same thing as if it had onboard HD-SDI of the original digital video signal straight from the DSPs.

Jacques Mersereau · May 15th, 2005, 02:55 PM

[QUOTE=Barry Green]Don't know where you heard that, but there's no 292M HDSDI output on this camera at all. >>>

At NAB, JVC was showing a studio model HD100e that had the tape
transport removed and replaced with an encoder that could be
switched between SDI and HDSDI output via two bnc jacks above the three
analog component BNC jacks.

This HD100'e' model was a test balloon according to the JVC reps. to see
if there was interest. I told them that this was the model I was
interested in.

Barry Green · May 15th, 2005, 05:08 PM

Well, now that would be interesting! Didn't see that one... thanks for the info!

Lou Bruno · May 22nd, 2005, 03:07 PM

I believe somewhere around 6 Lux.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Green

Not sure what you mean -- there is no interlaced mode on this camera...

I don't believe any low-light specs have been mentioned yet...

Joe Carney · May 26th, 2005, 10:55 AM

Any firm release date yet? June, July? I'm still debating whether or not to rent or buy. If they release the North American version with less features than the EU version, I will not purchase. Rent maybe. Boycott maybe.

Guy Barwood · June 5th, 2005, 04:33 AM

"Not sure what you mean -- there is no interlaced mode on this camera..."

Think DV (ie PAL/NTSC)

May 13th, 2005, 07:42 AM	#19
Steve Roark Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vilseck, Germany Posts: 89	Great for limited applications According to the webmaster on that site. There are no optics inside the adapter (so there's no reason to expect this to be too expensive). And, the magification factor would be about 7xs. That means a 20mm W/A SLR lens becomes a 140mm telephoto? Great for wildlife and moon shots, not so great for indoor shooting. Definitely would need a rock-solid tripod with this thing on. Thanks for the tip. Steve

May 14th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#20
Dave Frank Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 244	Exactly Steve. It's just the adaptor to attach the lens. No relay lens/ground glass system certainly. If you want a mini35, don't worry. P+S Teknik was showing off a prototype at NAB of the new mini35 for the JVC. They said it will be out as soon as the camera gets released. __________________ http://www.sleeptightmovie.com

May 15th, 2005, 10:03 AM	#22
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	Exactly. I was wondering why all the hubub about the "stock" lens? IMO, this is a camera HEAD. What I like is that with 1/3" chips is the 7.2 magnification factor provided by 'non glass' adapters using 35mm glass AND/OR (almost) ANY lens @ 1:1 with a PS Technik. That coupled with real 1280x720 CCDs and uncompressed 292M HDSDI output makes this camera bigger than the VX1K when it burst the "must have huge bucks" balloon. Granted, it will still take huge bucks to get an entire 'real' HD system together, but when the camera head is $5K instead of $60K, that is a significant step in price reduction. There is a further price reduction if lens one already owns can be made to work. That is about as good a deal as you'll ever get for a massive upgrade in quality. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

May 15th, 2005, 02:55 PM	#24
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	[QUOTE=Barry Green]Don't know where you heard that, but there's no 292M HDSDI output on this camera at all. >>> At NAB, JVC was showing a studio model HD100e that had the tape transport removed and replaced with an encoder that could be switched between SDI and HDSDI output via two bnc jacks above the three analog component BNC jacks. This HD100'e' model was a test balloon according to the JVC reps. to see if there was interest. I told them that this was the model I was interested in. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

May 13th, 2005, 01:14 AM	#16
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Bypassing the stock lens is not a budgetary option for probably most buyers. The optional wide-angle lens carries a retail price of about $12,000.

May 13th, 2005, 02:31 AM	#17
Steve Roark Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vilseck, Germany Posts: 89	$12,000? I though it was going to be around $6,000...Oh, well, either price is out of my budget for now. What I'd love to see is an adapter for nikon SLR lenses in the near future. Steve

May 14th, 2005, 08:08 PM	#21
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Dave, thats why I'm not worried about lenses for this camera.

May 15th, 2005, 05:08 PM	#25
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Well, now that would be interesting! Didn't see that one... thanks for the info!

May 26th, 2005, 10:55 AM	#27
Joe Carney Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Centreville Va Posts: 1,828	Any firm release date yet? June, July? I'm still debating whether or not to rent or buy. If they release the North American version with less features than the EU version, I will not purchase. Rent maybe. Boycott maybe.

June 5th, 2005, 04:33 AM	#28
Guy Barwood Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 423	"Not sure what you mean -- there is no interlaced mode on this camera..." Think DV (ie PAL/NTSC)