JVC Discontinuing its ProHD Tape??? at DVinfo.net

Ron Fabienke · August 10th, 2010, 11:18 PM

I was just informed tonight and saw a copy of their marketing bulletin, that on Aug 4th JVC issued a notice to dealers that when existing stock is gone on the MDV63PROHD cassettes, that is it....no more. Did all of the existing owners of the GY-HD 100 and 200 series of their camcorders just get abandoned and unsupported, in that the closest dry version of cassette....Panasonic has lots of drop outs with JVC hardware, I've been told by a pro production house that has tried alternatives.

This is a tape question but I posted in the camcorder section as it directly affects all owners of these units, not to mention their resale value if and when a customer might want to switch to one of the newer models. If true, and there is no acceptable other cassette to use, how is this "ethical" to drop physical media support after a short period of years for this highly marketed platform?? Am I missing something here?

Allan Black · August 11th, 2010, 04:57 AM

Is there an indication what tape JVC is replacing it with?

Cheers.

Shaun Roemich · August 11th, 2010, 09:46 AM

Based on an e-mail I just sent my dealer who is a DVI Sponsor this information is absolutely TRUE. No word on a suitable replacement.

I am SOME upset right now.

Shaun Roemich · August 11th, 2010, 09:53 AM

Allan: JVC is CLOSING the factory that makes the tape, again according to my dealer, so I DOUBT there is a replacement solution.

Ron, thanks for sharing.

I've enquired as to a SAFE replacement tape. I'll let you know what I hear back.

Ron Fabienke · August 11th, 2010, 12:04 PM

ONE chance to get it captured type shooting. No "do overs". Events that cannot be restaged. That is the bar here for whatever someone says will be acceptable replacements. Even the JVC tape of course has some moments. But this company I referenced tried for some slightly lower costs other manufacturers' top-of-the-line "similarly lubricated" technology tape options and had to continue coming back to the JVC tape.

Shaun Roemich · August 11th, 2010, 12:10 PM

If Craig Yanagi is out there reading, I think we'd like to hear from him on this. I'm feeling absolutely betrayed by JVC at the moment.

Allan Black · August 11th, 2010, 04:44 PM

Shaun and guys, in a practical sense you have to either stock up on JVC, migrate to another brand or get into solid state storage.

If you stock up, don't forget cleaner tapes. Panasonic no longer import cleaners into Aust.
Cheers.

Shaun Roemich · August 11th, 2010, 05:00 PM

Yeah, planning on stocking up. The timing sucks though.

John Abbey · August 11th, 2010, 05:55 PM

well this does suck, that's the only tape I have put thru my hd100 .. I am sure there will be some other replacement tape...but just in case I just ordered a bunch from B&H

Allan Black · August 11th, 2010, 05:58 PM

Looks like JVC took post 1 to heart .. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/long-bla...etic-tape.html

Cheers.

Giuseppe Pugliese · August 17th, 2010, 04:37 PM

Just use Panasonic PQ Masters - used them the whole life of my cameras never had an issue with them, ever.

William Hohauser · August 23rd, 2010, 06:44 AM

I have been using Fujifilm DV141HD HDV tape for years and had good lock so far.

Craig Yanagi · August 24th, 2010, 04:08 PM

While the JVC MDV63PROHD media is still available through
our reseller channels in the US, I've been informed by our factory
product personnel that the Panasonic AY-HDVM63MQ, or Master
Quality media, has similar characteristics and would be a viable
substitute for those who cannot access this supply.

Forum participants such as William and Giuseppe have found that
other brands can be used with the ProHD camcorders with success,
and the question of using different brands of media has been discussed
ad nauseum under "The Long Black Line" thread, and in particular at the
following link: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/long-bla...ntroversy.html

If you jump to post #81 by Alister Chapman a clear and concise
explanation is provided. A longer (and perhaps more painful) POV
by yours truly is posted on #73.

I hope this and the prior postings are of help to you all.

Alex Humphrey · September 8th, 2010, 01:02 PM

Thanks Craig! You have always got the goods on the info. Thanks for always being there for us!

Andrew Carter · October 5th, 2010, 07:39 AM

Is there a suitable make of PRO HD tape you can use from a similar manufacturer? I've just getten one of these cameras and I'm going to be seriously annoyed if I cant record to HD if i choose?!

Thanks

August 10th, 2010, 11:18 PM	#1
Ron Fabienke Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 184	JVC Discontinuing its ProHD Tape??? I was just informed tonight and saw a copy of their marketing bulletin, that on Aug 4th JVC issued a notice to dealers that when existing stock is gone on the MDV63PROHD cassettes, that is it....no more. Did all of the existing owners of the GY-HD 100 and 200 series of their camcorders just get abandoned and unsupported, in that the closest dry version of cassette....Panasonic has lots of drop outs with JVC hardware, I've been told by a pro production house that has tried alternatives. This is a tape question but I posted in the camcorder section as it directly affects all owners of these units, not to mention their resale value if and when a customer might want to switch to one of the newer models. If true, and there is no acceptable other cassette to use, how is this "ethical" to drop physical media support after a short period of years for this highly marketed platform?? Am I missing something here?

August 11th, 2010, 04:57 AM	#2
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,887	Is there an indication what tape JVC is replacing it with? Cheers. __________________ Drink more tap water. On admission at Sydney hospitals more than 5% of day patients are de-hydrated.

August 11th, 2010, 09:46 AM	#3
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Based on an e-mail I just sent my dealer who is a DVI Sponsor this information is absolutely TRUE. No word on a suitable replacement. I am SOME upset right now. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

August 11th, 2010, 09:53 AM	#4
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Allan: JVC is CLOSING the factory that makes the tape, again according to my dealer, so I DOUBT there is a replacement solution. Ron, thanks for sharing. I've enquired as to a SAFE replacement tape. I'll let you know what I hear back. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

August 11th, 2010, 12:10 PM	#6
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	If Craig Yanagi is out there reading, I think we'd like to hear from him on this. I'm feeling absolutely betrayed by JVC at the moment. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

August 11th, 2010, 12:04 PM	#5
Ron Fabienke Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 184	ONE chance to get it captured type shooting. No "do overs". Events that cannot be restaged. That is the bar here for whatever someone says will be acceptable replacements. Even the JVC tape of course has some moments. But this company I referenced tried for some slightly lower costs other manufacturers' top-of-the-line "similarly lubricated" technology tape options and had to continue coming back to the JVC tape.

August 11th, 2010, 04:44 PM	#7
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,887	Shaun and guys, in a practical sense you have to either stock up on JVC, migrate to another brand or get into solid state storage. If you stock up, don't forget cleaner tapes. Panasonic no longer import cleaners into Aust. Cheers. __________________ Drink more tap water. On admission at Sydney hospitals more than 5% of day patients are de-hydrated.

August 11th, 2010, 05:00 PM	#8
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Yeah, planning on stocking up. The timing sucks though. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

August 11th, 2010, 05:55 PM	#9
John Abbey Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 133	well this does suck, that's the only tape I have put thru my hd100 .. I am sure there will be some other replacement tape...but just in case I just ordered a bunch from B&H

August 11th, 2010, 05:58 PM	#10
Allan Black Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney. Posts: 2,887	Looks like JVC took post 1 to heart .. http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/long-bla...etic-tape.html Cheers. __________________ Drink more tap water. On admission at Sydney hospitals more than 5% of day patients are de-hydrated.

August 17th, 2010, 04:37 PM	#11
Giuseppe Pugliese Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York Posts: 392	Just use Panasonic PQ Masters - used them the whole life of my cameras never had an issue with them, ever.

August 23rd, 2010, 06:44 AM	#12
William Hohauser Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 2,650	I have been using Fujifilm DV141HD HDV tape for years and had good lock so far. __________________ William Hohauser - New York City Producer/Edit/Camera/Animation

August 24th, 2010, 04:08 PM	#13
Craig Yanagi JVC America Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wayne, New Jersey Posts: 198	Substitute for MDV63PROHD While the JVC MDV63PROHD media is still available through our reseller channels in the US, I've been informed by our factory product personnel that the Panasonic AY-HDVM63MQ, or Master Quality media, has similar characteristics and would be a viable substitute for those who cannot access this supply. Forum participants such as William and Giuseppe have found that other brands can be used with the ProHD camcorders with success, and the question of using different brands of media has been discussed ad nauseum under "The Long Black Line" thread, and in particular at the following link: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/long-bla...ntroversy.html If you jump to post #81 by Alister Chapman a clear and concise explanation is provided. A longer (and perhaps more painful) POV by yours truly is posted on #73. I hope this and the prior postings are of help to you all. __________________ Craig Yanagi - National Marketing Manager JVC Professional Video Division, JVCKENWOOD USA Corp.

September 8th, 2010, 01:02 PM	#14
Alex Humphrey Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: california North and South Posts: 642	Thanks Craig! You have always got the goods on the info. Thanks for always being there for us!

October 5th, 2010, 07:39 AM	#15
Andrew Carter Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 116	Is there a suitable make of PRO HD tape you can use from a similar manufacturer? I've just getten one of these cameras and I'm going to be seriously annoyed if I cant record to HD if i choose?! Thanks