Some question for fellow HD100E/HD101E users at DVinfo.net

Michael Maier · October 17th, 2005, 04:56 AM

Did your HD100 come with a Warranty card? Mine did not, and I heard European models don't come with one. Only U.S. models. So I guess in Europe all you need is your bill of sale/invoice for the warranty. But I just want to make sure that's right. I don't want to find out I need a warranty card when I need warranty service.
Also, when you play HDV24p back to your normal PAL TV using composite, does it play black and white? Mine does. But HDV25p plays in color. I haven't test HDV30p yet.
Thanks.

Nate Weaver · October 17th, 2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Maier

Did your HD100 come with a Warranty card? Mine did not, and I heard European models don't come with one. Only U.S. models. So I guess in Europe all you need is your bill of sale/invoice for the warranty. But I just want to make sure that's right. I don't want to find out I need a warranty card when I need warranty service.
Also, when you play HDV24p back to your normal PAL TV using composite, does it play black and white? Mine does. But HDV25p plays in color. I haven't test HDV30p yet.
Thanks.

My guess is that you're seeing back and white because the output is set to "component", rather than "auto" or "composite".

Werner Wesp · October 17th, 2005, 03:05 PM

No that can't be, because he's seeing 25p in colour....

Michael Maier · October 17th, 2005, 04:31 PM

The output is set to auto.

Nate Weaver · October 17th, 2005, 08:21 PM

Is HDV 24P outputting NTSC?

Just how is HDV 24P converted to 50i in real time anyway?

John Mitchell · October 17th, 2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Maier

The output is set to auto.

Have you tried manually selecting composite? My guess is the camera assumes component in 24P mode.

Or it could just be a straight sync issue with PAL TV and 24 FPS ...

I will run tests now and get back to you.

John Mitchell · October 17th, 2005, 09:40 PM

I had a JVC engineer in here this morning fixing the PAL SD timecode problem (see other thread) and he has confirmed that 24P downconverted in composite is output in NTSC, hence the black and white on your monitor.

Should work fine on a dual standard monitor.

Michael Maier · October 18th, 2005, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate Weaver

Is HDV 24P outputting NTSC?

Just how is HDV 24P converted to 50i in real time anyway?

No idea. Somehow it is. Apparently to NTSC according to John.

Michael Maier · October 18th, 2005, 03:51 AM

Thanks John. Did you test it yourself too?
I'm also assuming HDV30p will do the same then.
By the way, what about the warranty card guys?

John Mitchell · October 18th, 2005, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Maier

Thanks John. Did you test it yourself too?
I'm also assuming HDV30p will do the same then.
By the way, what about the warranty card guys?

Michael - I tried it on a cheap Digitor and my more expensive Sony (not my production monitor - a domestic 68cm model). Both played back 24P in colour. So that didn't really tell me anything because both these TV's are multisync models. So I hooked it up to my DVDO iScan and when I selected the correct input and info, the iScan reported it as NTSC @ 59.94.

So conclusively it is outputting 24P as NTSC in composite.

However 90% of the PAL units sold these days are compatible with NTSC. The 38cm Digitor I spoke of cost me less than $AU200, features a component input at rear and front A/V inputs. It comes in 51cm and 68cm models for not much more. Hope this info helps.

Don't recall seeing a warranty card, but then I have a receipt and I've already had my camera replaced under warranty.

October 17th, 2005, 04:56 AM	#1
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Some questions for fellow HD100E/HD101E users Did your HD100 come with a Warranty card? Mine did not, and I heard European models don't come with one. Only U.S. models. So I guess in Europe all you need is your bill of sale/invoice for the warranty. But I just want to make sure that's right. I don't want to find out I need a warranty card when I need warranty service. Also, when you play HDV24p back to your normal PAL TV using composite, does it play black and white? Mine does. But HDV25p plays in color. I haven't test HDV30p yet. Thanks. Last edited by Michael Maier; October 17th, 2005 at 04:30 PM.

October 17th, 2005, 08:21 PM	#5
Nate Weaver Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,100	Is HDV 24P outputting NTSC? Just how is HDV 24P converted to 50i in real time anyway? __________________ My Work: nateweaver.net

October 17th, 2005, 03:05 PM	#3
Werner Wesp Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 497	No that can't be, because he's seeing 25p in colour....

October 17th, 2005, 04:31 PM	#4
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	The output is set to auto.

October 17th, 2005, 09:40 PM	#7
John Mitchell Contributor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 873	I had a JVC engineer in here this morning fixing the PAL SD timecode problem (see other thread) and he has confirmed that 24P downconverted in composite is output in NTSC, hence the black and white on your monitor. Should work fine on a dual standard monitor.

October 18th, 2005, 03:51 AM	#9
Michael Maier Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,269	Thanks John. Did you test it yourself too? I'm also assuming HDV30p will do the same then. By the way, what about the warranty card guys?