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Old February 27th, 2006, 03:10 PM   #16
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Do even the best lenses produce CA if the shot is overexposed?

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I have to defer this question over to the lens gurus of the forum. My initial reaction is no. Overexposing will cause blooming but not necessarily CA. From the input above both Tim and Charles have had their hands on the 13x lens and can be a better resource for it's CA performance. As far as the other camera's in the same price range I've seen CA on every one of them (JVC, Sony, Canon and Pan).
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Old February 27th, 2006, 03:14 PM   #17
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There is no perfect lens. Even Flourite lenses will have some CA, but will be less than non-flourite glass.

Even the 13x3.5 lens has CA. I compared CA between the lenses (results with frame grabs will be forthcoming) but it isn't as bad.

On either lens, if you open the iris up all the way you will get a purple to green gradation, top to bottom, over the whole image. We've seen this before from some people, but I've finally identified it as CA and not an electronic problem.
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I notice that if I overexpose clouds they can turn a pinky magenta colour is this CA?


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Old February 27th, 2006, 03:20 PM   #18
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I notice that if I overexpose clouds they can turn a pinky magenta colour is this CA?


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Probably, but it isn't about overexposing, it is about the aperature setting. For example, maybe your correct exposure for the clouds is 1/100th shutter, ND2, @ F2 and you are getting pink fringing. Try setting an equal exposure of F2.8 and 1/48th shutter and see if you still get the fringing.
Then try F4 @ 1/24th shutter and check again. The resultant exposure will be the same in all cases, but the CA characteristics should change.

If it starts to go away when you close down, then it is probably CA. Be careful not to close down more than F5.6 on a 1/3" lens or you might experience diffraction.
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Old February 27th, 2006, 04:05 PM   #19
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Thanks Tim

I'll try that tomorrow, not many chances right now where I am (it's dark) but I KNOW there WILL be clouds tomorrow! There always is here!

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Old February 27th, 2006, 04:27 PM   #20
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Thanks Tim

I'll try that tomorrow, not many chances right now where I am (it's dark) but I KNOW there WILL be clouds tomorrow! There always is here!

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So now I finally know were all these clouds keep coming from towards Belgium...
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Old February 27th, 2006, 07:24 PM   #21
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Another thing I've tried is rack focus with the macro ring. No breathing whatsoever. It's a tool worth a try. Does the director want every scene in the movie to be shallow DOF or certain scenes?
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Old February 28th, 2006, 02:32 AM   #22
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macro

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only for two scenes.
i'm gonna test the macro ring... what sort of results have you gotten using the macro ring?

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Old February 28th, 2006, 12:10 PM   #23
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only for two scenes.
i'm gonna test the macro ring... what sort of results have you gotten using the macro ring?

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Efrain

No need to go down that 'difficult' route, read what Charles and Tip are telling you, telephoto is the way to go.

I have done some tests and as long as you can set from wide open to just under F4 you can get a decent rack.


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BTW. Tim, 'nothing but blue skies all the way' today!!
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Old February 28th, 2006, 05:28 PM   #24
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Here's my measured Field Of View comparison between the 13x3.5 @ 3.5mm and the 16x Stock lens @ 5.5mm and 4.5mm (with 0.82 Wide Adapter.)

http://timdashwood.com/.Public/13xvs16xFOV.jpg

Just one more reason to rent this lens for dramatic work, especially in cars.

Great info so far Tim and thanks.
Do we have a street price on te 13x yet?
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Old March 6th, 2006, 10:14 AM   #25
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Great info so far Tim and thanks.
Do we have a street price on te 13x yet?
I think $13,900 in Canada. I'm not sure about the US price.
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Old March 6th, 2006, 12:32 PM   #26
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B&H is listing it for $8999.95. It says accepting orders.
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Old March 6th, 2006, 01:02 PM   #27
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No way i'd spend that for a first gen lowly 1/3" cam
Maybe when 1/2" comes around..
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Old March 6th, 2006, 01:21 PM   #28
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No way i'd spend that for a first gen lowly 1/3" cam
Maybe when 1/2" comes around..
I understand that concern.
Now if JVC allows this lens to be compatible with future 1/3" to 2/3" technology, that's a different story.
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Old March 6th, 2006, 01:23 PM   #29
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Do we have a street price on te 13x yet?
CineQuip White here in Burnaby, British Columbia has it for $11,500.
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Old March 6th, 2006, 07:31 PM   #30
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CineQuip White here in Burnaby, British Columbia has it for $11,500.
That must be the Canadian price then. It is more in line with B & H's US price. I had quoted the original MSRP.
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