ProHD DVD Player

[Jim Giberti]

Goinng back to a discussion we've ben having in a couple of other threads, I'm assuming the best way to burn FCP projects to DVD-R for this player would be as native files. Tim and Daniel...how did you export the FCP timelines to DVD?

[Robert M Wright]

This player is basically the same unit as the IO-Data LinkPlayer2. The LinkPlayer2 can be purchased for about $250.

[Steven Thomas]

Everyone,

The player looks very good with the m2t files.

It is very quirky, like Steve mentioned about having
to stop playing the file and going back to the menu to select another m2t.

Also, playing some regular movie DVDs, the player just freezes at times.
I've owned it for about six weeks. I'd love to praise this player, but believe me it's very buggy. IODATA is coming out with another firmware update. If you question this, just visit their forum I posted above.
The good thing is we can update it via its network connection.

[Tim Dashwood]

Originally Posted by Jim Giberti

Goinng back to a discussion we've ben having in a couple of other threads, I'm assuming the best way to burn FCP projects to DVD-R for this player would be as native files. Tim and Daniel...how did you export the FCP timelines to DVD?

I just used Lumiere HD to encode my exported timeline (AIC codec) into an m2t at 720P24. The player played it fine.
I also threw some raw m2t captures straight from tape onto the DVD-ROM.
I burned the DVD straight from Tiger: stick a blank in, drag the files to it, click burn.

[Joe Carney]

Originally Posted by Carl Hicks

The SR-DVD100U is a wonderful tool for the distribution and playback of .m2t and Windows Media files. It can play back files that are on a disk, on a USB flash drive, on a USB hard drive, or through a ethernet connection to a PC or network.

It has both component and DVI outputs for video, and 2 channel analog audio out. I like to think of it as a "real-time data-to-video/audio converter"

I use it all the time at trade shows and seminars. I used it for 3 hours today at a seminar, in fact! Outputting to a HD LCD monitor or HD projector, I can't tell any difference between the SR-DVD100U footage and HDV directly from tape. It can upconvert and downconvert, so you can use it with any display - SD or HD.

And, it's by far the most economical way to distribute HD material.

Carl, have they worked out the issues with playing back HD WMV files? To me, thats just as important as playing back m2ts'.

[Giroud Francois]

you probably better to go with the KISS DP-600.
it plays every video format (including DivXHD and wmv9-HD) from a regular DVD-R, so you get the best of both DVD and HD-DVD world (cheap and hires).
it can play from a harddisk (optional) , from network (ethernet plug) or from DVD, DVD-R.
It all new, so we can expect some bug too, but KISS has a solid reputation of making very good players.

[Steve Mullen]

Originally Posted by Steven Thomas

Steve, I'm not sure if I understand what you saying here..

BR and HD-DVD offer over five times the data capacity over DVD.

You only need enough space for a 2 hour movie. The amount of space is dependent on the codec. Use MPEG-2 and you need BR and HD DVD.

Use MPEG-2 AVC or VC1 and you don't. HD encode at 8-9Mbps.

Same quality.

[Giroud Francois]

interesting secret about the KISS DP-600.
http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/kiss_...heres_more.htm

[Steve Mullen]

Originally Posted by Giroud Francois

interesting secret about the KISS DP-600.
http://www.mpeg-playcenter.com/kiss_...heres_more.htm

It was shown at last year's NAB. A year later and it's not shipping in the USA.

[Giroud Francois]

the explanation from the website is the delay was probably due to the first 16 000 items sent directly to the MPAA.... but anyway , it is shiping now.
My preffered shop has it in price list, but delivery time is not yet indicated, so probably they have no stock yet.

ooops , correction, it is available now , but on special order.
But if you need just a storage place or a player you can transport easily, there are many standalone harddisk player that can output HD 1080i or 720p.
unfortunately, most of them are just playing SD video to 1080i, so there is no improvement to expect here.
And if you need a cheap storage +portability, using a new small SONY hdv is even better.

And last ressource, you can do as every TV shop is doing now, plug the huge HD ready demo plasma screen on a mini barebone PC running one of the HD microsoft demo.

[Daniel Weber]

Originally Posted by Jim Giberti

Goinng back to a discussion we've ben having in a couple of other threads, I'm assuming the best way to burn FCP projects to DVD-R for this player would be as native files. Tim and Daniel...how did you export the FCP timelines to DVD?

Jim,

I probably do it the long way, but I edit native HDV in FCP and then print back to HDV tape. I then recapture the video with DVHSCap as a .m2t file. I then burn this to a DVD-R.

I tried exporting via compressor as an HDMPEG2 file where you can select a transport stream, but I didn't like the compression artifacts that I saw. Much cleaner off tape.

Dan Weber

[Tomas Chinchilla]

I agree with Daniel about FCP back to Tape and then DVHScap m2t files, burn as UDF and the Linkplayer will play them just fine.

Compressor does a pretty bad job at encoding MPEG2's.

And the answer to your question about HDTS = G4 vs G5.

[Carl Hicks]

Hi Joe,

I have downloaded HD WMV files from Microsoft's website, burned them to a DVD data disc, and played the disk with no problem. So, I'm not aware of the problem you are referring to.

Regards, Carl

[Tomas Chinchilla]

Be careful with that, a few of those files you pulled from Microsoft are not DRM'ed

If you buy the actual WMVHD DVD from let's say Amazon, those will be encrypted using DRM and the Link player will not be able to play them. Unless you have a PC and you go thru the pain staking process (Workaround) of playing them from the Windows machine itself.

[Daniel Weber]

Originally Posted by Tomas Chinchilla

And the answer to your question about HDTS = G4 vs G5.

Tomas,

Thanks!! I should have figured that one out!!!

Dan Weber