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Old April 11th, 2006, 10:53 AM   #16
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The Firestores certainly do sound like they are a simple workflow, faster and easier than a deck. BUT- it is a hard drive, and hard drives will fail at one point or another... usually when you need it the most, and have nothing backed up. Damn you Murphy!

Anyways, just having a tape in your cam as a backup, can save the day. And, if you need to capture that tape's footage, you either need a deck, or your cam. So, I can't see any reason to not have a deck, aside from not being able to afford one.

For budget minded shooters, this is the big plus with the new Firestores. In my experience, while always a concern on any project, hard drive failure has, thankfully never cost us a minute of work over the years.
Now obviously a field operated hard drive is a thing unto itself, but I'm assuming that by its nature it has been designed robustly.

So, of course, you drop a $5 mini dv tape into your drive while capturing to hard drive and in that hopefully rare instance that you have a drive failure you can use your HD100 as capture device for your backup without the cost of a deck.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 11:37 AM   #17
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yeah Jim that's kind'a what i was thinking also, that record your footage to your firestore and have a tape in there recording at the same time (your back up to the hard drive) i think you HAVE to have a tape in there anyway? is that correct? could be wrong

when you finish a project in FC can you take the saved file/footage and back it up on tape? that can be done with the deck? yes the BR-HD50 Deck.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 11:44 AM   #18
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Is there a way to control it with a serial cable maybe with a usb connector...could that be a problem. I'm under the impression time code is a little "funny" with hdv. Most of my footage is 30p so I'm not dealing with the 24 issue.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 11:46 AM   #19
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Although I'm surprised I cannot even pull up a picture on the computer.

External monitor looks good....man I live hdv. It may not be real HD but for the price and size it looks fine to me.

I also have some dv footage which still won't show up when run throught he deck. My dsr 11 looks fine.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 11:47 AM   #20
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I know the upgrade to the jvc prohd camera has something to do with editing. Could the deck need upgrading too? Are they offering it?

I bouth the stuff back in dec.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 12:41 PM   #21
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Does the deck play the mini-Dv and full DV casettes OK? No drop outs on DV on Sony tapes?
I wanna know in case I replace my current Sony DV deck
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Old April 11th, 2006, 12:50 PM   #22
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So far as the deck by itself, not including the nle issues. I love it. It's a real deck, component out, serial out, fire out etc. The only thing missing is a jog shuttle. Dv is fine.

But like i said so far, it is still new to me. I really like the fact it plays full cassettes too.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 02:08 PM   #23
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I have the deck and edit to Premiere 2.0. It works great with dv and dvcam.
But I still cannot get Adobe to see it while it is in HDV Mode. After I totally uninstalled and re instlled the program and after 1 hour on the phone with Adobe I am still unable to see it. Adobe told me that JVC is not on the list of "tested" equipment. But the deck is great with standard DV.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 03:21 PM   #24
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Humm, I can't see it in dv mode either. Maybe it is the cable. It's usually the last thing you think of right.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 03:25 PM   #25
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Ok got DV picture but still not deck control.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 04:07 PM   #26
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i'm curious how many of you JVCHD100 users picked up the JVC deck as well for playback/capture...or are you just using the camera to play back and capture in to your NLE?

I also have the deck, but if I had a choice between a DTE disk system or the deck (it was not an option for me at the time) I would go with the DTE disk. More so if you do not need to deliver finished on the mini DV tape format. I look at all the time I spend shooting AND digitizing... ACK! 4 hours of shoot time followed by 3-4 hours of EDL / digitizing. DTE disk here I come.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 05:21 PM   #27
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Ok got DV picture but still not deck control.

Jeff... have you got the Remote/Local switch set correctly?... just a thought...

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Old April 11th, 2006, 05:28 PM   #28
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yep. cable is fine too.

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Old April 11th, 2006, 05:33 PM   #29
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I may have to suck it up and get a pc for now.

ugh the thought.
at least I don't mind avid.

Thanks everyone.

Hopefully the intel g5's come out by the end of the week.
I hate to spend the money twice.

I'll give tech support one last call.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 06:06 PM   #30
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Jeff,

I tried the deck out for a day with Final Cut Pro and it worked beautifully. I even worked out an offline/online workflow for 720P24 using TC via the RS-422 and Decklink with automated pulldown removal.

I was also able to make the deck work as expected in full firewire HDV mode as well as DV mode. I just had to switch the remote switch to the right setting. The REM SEL HDV/DV just needs to be turned ON in the REMOTE menu.

However, for the best pre-roll accuracy when using RS-422, I had to set the CONTROLLER SEL in REMOTE menu to TYPE7. You may want to try the same thing.
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