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John Doran · April 11th, 2006, 07:43 AM

hi
Used the XL1s onborad mic for a wedding, (for everything)it was fine, doing a wedding with tyhe JVC101e and was wondering if the mic would be as good as the mic on the xl1s,the xl1s mic is a stero mic, i don not know what type of mic the jvc101e has.

j

Paolo Ciccone · April 11th, 2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doran

hi
Used the XL1s onborad mic for a wedding, (for everything)it was fine, doing a wedding with tyhe JVC101e and was wondering if the mic would be as good as the mic on the xl1s

Hi John.

I don't know the XL1S but the stock mic on the HD100 is terrible. If you want an inexpensive mic that sounds great get a RODE NTG1 (mono), connect it to Input 2 on the camera and set the switch to "Channel 2 to Channel 1" for recoding on both channels at the same time. I think I got mine at B&H for about $250.00, including holder and a short cable.

John Doran · April 11th, 2006, 09:01 AM

thankyou very much, i will have a look at that

john

Werner Wesp · April 11th, 2006, 09:19 AM

Well, it is terrible, but so was the XL1s mic in my opinion. Better go for the rode, or bvetter yet, a sound man with a mic very far from the camcorder (and preferrably close to the subject :-) )

John Doran · April 11th, 2006, 09:37 AM

hi werner

i am a oneman band, the xl1s mic was ok it was stereo, it's just i have not tried the 101e's mic yet, if it is roughly the same as the xl1s' it will do.

john.

John Mitchell · April 11th, 2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doran

hi werner

i am a oneman band, the xl1s mic was ok it was stereo, it's just i have not tried the 101e's mic yet, if it is roughly the same as the xl1s' it will do.

john.

John I'd back up the comments about the nTG1 but if you can afford it you might consider a second mic - radio the Senheisser Evolution 100 series (quite cost effective) for the other channel. Should get you even closer to the action with a little planning.

John Doran · April 11th, 2006, 01:57 PM

thanks again

but is the onboard mic that bad, i will probaly go for the rode.

john

Paul Jefferies · April 11th, 2006, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paolo Ciccone

connect it to Input 2 on the camera and set the switch to "Channel 2 to Channel 1" for recoding on both channels at the same time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "Ch-2 input" switch is for routing input 1 to record on either just ch1 or to both ch1 and ch2. It will not route the signal from input2 to both channels, in fact if switched to "input 2" it will mute input 2 entirely, in favour of input 1

Paolo Ciccone · April 11th, 2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Jefferies

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "Ch-2 input" switch is for routing input 1 to record on either just ch1 or to both ch1 and ch2. It will not route the signal from input2 to both channels, in fact if switched to "input 2" it will mute input 2 entirely, in favour of input 1

Brain fart on my side, that's what I meant :) Connect the mic to Ch 1 and use the switch to record on both channels.

Dave Beaty · April 15th, 2006, 07:13 AM

The JVC onboard mic is pretty bad. It really has a sharp roll off on the bottom end.

I swapped it for one of our Sony mics from a DXC637 and it's noticibly better for Nat Sound.

I haven't tried the NTG1. It is substantially longer than the stock mic at 8.5 inches. Does it fit well in the mount?

What about a mic like the Sony ECM-NV1? It's a similar price...OEM from the PD170 and made for camera mounting.

Laszlo Horvath · April 15th, 2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Beaty

The JVC onboard mic is pretty bad. It really has a sharp roll off on the bottom end.

I swapped it for one of our Sony mics from a DXC637 and it's noticibly better for Nat Sound.

I also use the mics. from my DSR-300a. Waaaay better than the JVC's mic.

Laszlo

Paolo Ciccone · April 15th, 2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Beaty

I haven't tried the NTG1. It is substantially longer than the stock mic at 8.5 inches. Does it fit well in the mount?

Yes, it does. I bought mine with a shock mount that connect to the shoe connector of the camera. I like it in the center instead of being on the side. In fact I removed the standard microphone mount.

John Doran · April 16th, 2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paolo Ciccone

Yes, it does. I bought mine with a shock mount that connect to the shoe connector of the camera. I like it in the center instead of being on the side. In fact I removed the standard microphone mount.

So where would you put the "light" if the mic is in the middle ?.

john

Paolo Ciccone · April 16th, 2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doran

So where would you put the "light" if the mic is in the middle ?.

Well, I guess that in that case you would use the side holder for the mic, it works fine for the NTG1. I don't use any on-board light. Besides, taking the holder on or off is just a minute.

April 11th, 2006, 07:43 AM	#1
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	JVC101E-onboard mic hi Used the XL1s onborad mic for a wedding, (for everything)it was fine, doing a wedding with tyhe JVC101e and was wondering if the mic would be as good as the mic on the xl1s,the xl1s mic is a stero mic, i don not know what type of mic the jvc101e has. j

April 11th, 2006, 09:01 AM	#3
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	mic thankyou very much, i will have a look at that john

April 11th, 2006, 09:37 AM	#5
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	mic hi werner i am a oneman band, the xl1s mic was ok it was stereo, it's just i have not tried the 101e's mic yet, if it is roughly the same as the xl1s' it will do. john.

April 11th, 2006, 01:57 PM	#7
John Doran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: belfast, northern ireland. Posts: 210	mic thanks again but is the onboard mic that bad, i will probaly go for the rode. john

April 11th, 2006, 09:19 AM	#4
Werner Wesp Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 497	Well, it is terrible, but so was the XL1s mic in my opinion. Better go for the rode, or bvetter yet, a sound man with a mic very far from the camcorder (and preferrably close to the subject :-) )

April 15th, 2006, 07:13 AM	#10
Dave Beaty Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ft. Myers, FL Posts: 240	The JVC onboard mic is pretty bad. It really has a sharp roll off on the bottom end. I swapped it for one of our Sony mics from a DXC637 and it's noticibly better for Nat Sound. I haven't tried the NTG1. It is substantially longer than the stock mic at 8.5 inches. Does it fit well in the mount? What about a mic like the Sony ECM-NV1? It's a similar price...OEM from the PD170 and made for camera mounting.