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Old May 10th, 2006, 09:57 PM   #1
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what do I need? I'm running Vegas 5, I think I need Vegas 6? What else?
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Old May 10th, 2006, 10:24 PM   #2
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what do I need? I'm running Vegas 5, I think I need Vegas 6? What else?
What are you planning to do? Shoot weddings? What else? Feature film? Kids?
There are literally thousands accessories of various importance depending on your needs and skill level. Your question doesn't make any sense without further qualification of your intentions.
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Old May 10th, 2006, 10:29 PM   #3
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film & music video, ready to order, just want to be able to edit..
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Old May 10th, 2006, 10:30 PM   #4
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-I ordered the PCUB-HD bag by Petrol:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

-And the AB mount:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=398347&is=REG

-For these batteries:
http://www.batteries4broadcast.com/
Two 90Wh and a travel charger for $515. I don't mind baby-sitting batteries so I can deal with a longer charge time. Thus I saved $300 on a cheaper charger.

-A tripod that supports about 15lbs.

-I've heard the microphone for the camera is not too great, so consider an AT897 shotgun. (Great mic for the money):http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

- Software for ingest --> Does Vegas capture 24pHD? Anyone know something that does?

- Mpeg Streamclip: http://www.squared5.com/
Great utility for converting capture files to other formats.

-Since you're on a PC, you might want to consider Cineform products to edit HDV. Their codecs will be better than DVCProHD. http://www.cineform.com/

That's all I can think of that would cover the basics for all situations.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #5
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This is the basic equipment i bought recently:

a) Tripod: Manfrotto kit 516/515MVB
The 516 is a real fluid head and can support a 35mm adapter. Cartoni Focus seems a better option, but it's most expensive and very difficult to find it in Spain.

b) Battery: Globalmediapro DC488
A cheap option for a long life battery if u don't want to invest in an Anton Bauer Gold Mount. For my works it's enough with 2-3h of battery.

c) Tapes: Sony Digital Master
The most expensive. Don't know how well they work yet.

d) Audio: Senneheiser K6/M66 kit
A kit with the micro, wind shield, mount and boompole. From B&H Photo. The M416 is a better option, but too much for my pocket.
NOTE: I put a thread in dvxuser.com and two people said that the M66 is not a great mic for interiors and is expensive. They talk about an Oktava. Look for this, maybe is a better purchase.

e) Filters:
A UV Filter to protect the lens, a ND Filter (8x) to open the iris when shoot outside and a Red Filter 25 to shoot in B&W.

f) Bag:
One made by Lowerpro for the XL1S. The Petrol bag (the PCUB-HD) seems a better bag.


For the edit workflow i use LumiereHD and FCP 5 on a Powerbook 17 with external 250Gb and works well.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 03:23 AM   #6
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d) Audio: Senneheiser K6/M66 kit
A kit with the micro, wind shield, mount and boompole. From B&H Photo. The M416 is a better option, but too much for my pocket.
NOTE: I put a thread in dvxuser.com and two people said that the M66 is not a great mic for interiors and is expensive. They talk about an Oktava. Look for this, maybe is a better purchase.

That was me that said the me66 is bad for interiors. I own one and like it but it's just not made for interiors. The octava is good for indoors and can be used for outdoors in a pinch whereas a shotgun like the me66 is really just single function. seriously, to do it right, you should have both. the 66 has taken some heat lately for being overpriced but it will still give you good sound. I own the me66, the octava, and a wired sony lapel and a wireless azden lapel. the lapels are crap. I have a very bare bones package, what's suggested here is not adequate. Seriously--spend on the sound. Send me and David Mullen out to do a documentary but muck up his sound and give me a soundguy. I'll kick his butt everytime despite his vastly superior experience and knowledge. Sound matters.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 03:36 AM   #7
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the audio technica 4073 is supposedly a great bang for the buck shotgun, allegedly significantly better than the me66, though more expensive by about 125 bucks.

One thing, what about AC power supplies? going off the supplied charger doesn't seem like the best option. What are people using?
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Old May 11th, 2006, 06:51 AM   #8
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film & music video, ready to order, just want to be able to edit..
If you're sticking with Vegas then you'll need to update to Vegas 6. If you want to edit 24fps effectively in Vegas you'll need to buy the Cineform plugin.

Check out the cineform section of the forum to get the details...
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Old May 11th, 2006, 06:59 AM   #9
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Thanks Stephen, your answer fed the intention of my post. I have all the other equipment I was referring to editing and Vegas only. Cineform Connect appears to be it along with Vegas 6. Thanks again.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 12:23 PM   #10
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How wide is the lense? As wide as the DVX?
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Old May 11th, 2006, 01:54 PM   #11
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How wide is the lense? As wide as the DVX?
Michael, The lens on the HD100 is alot different than the DVX
You are comparing a fixed lens vs a professional interchangable lens.
There are many options available for the HD100 including wide angle and soon to be released a 1.6x teleconvertor from Century Optics.

As noted in this thread, the ME66/K6 is a viable option for the microphone. If your application requires good audio, you definitely want to look at a different mic than what ships with the HD100

For a tripod, I recommend that you look at www.libecusa.com
Their product is comparible to Bogen Manfrotto, but pricing is better and customer service is exceptional

For a camera case, I saw a new mfg from the Netherlands on the NAB floor trying to introduce their products into the US. Go to www.camrade.com
Their products are comparable to Kata, however pricing is exceptional.

If you have any questions on accessories for the HD100, please contact me at your convenience and I would be happy to assist.

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Old May 11th, 2006, 02:03 PM   #12
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Thanks Scott, I'm using a Sennheiser MKH-416, I have three Bogen tripods,
two with 503 heads, one with the larger 3066 head. Was just curious how
wide the stock lense was, wasn't comparing the DVX apples for apples.

Thanks again
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Old May 11th, 2006, 02:08 PM   #13
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Stock 16x is not as wide as the DVX. By the numbers, if you get the Fujinon wide angle adapter for the 16x you technically have a wider FOV than the DVX (per Tim Dashwoods research, a search can find this here).

My personal feeling is that the 16x w/adapter is just barely adequate, FOV wise. The adapter IS sharp and high quality, though.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 04:23 PM   #14
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How wide is the lense? As wide as the DVX?
The stock lens offers 48 degrees. If you add the wide angle adapter you get 58 degrees which is closer to a DVX100.
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Old May 11th, 2006, 04:43 PM   #15
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Stock 16x is not as wide as the DVX. By the numbers, if you get the Fujinon wide angle adapter for the 16x you technically have a wider FOV than the DVX (per Tim Dashwoods research, a search can find this here).

My personal feeling is that the 16x w/adapter is just barely adequate, FOV wise. The adapter IS sharp and high quality, though.
When we ran both the HVX and our HD100 with the Fujinon wide angle adapter side by side, we found the HVX to still be wider. The HVX however did not do as well near the telephoto end. Obvious results, just adding my findings.

But I do agree, the adapter is sharp and a must have item if you cannot budget the more expensive and prefered 13X lens. Find a way to get it into the budget if you intend to shoot any interior or smaller spaces. It does not gain you a lot, but just enough to roughly justify the price.

Good luck with your purchase, it's a great camera for the money.
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