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Old July 23rd, 2006, 10:18 PM   #1
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Red frames???

I've been reading a few posts on this forum compaining of intermittent red frames recorded by the HD100. What are these? How long do they last? Are they visible in the viewfinder while you're recording? Has JVC responded to this and explained what is causing them?
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 10:20 PM   #2
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They seem to run 6 to 9 frames. I've been told it is a CCD issue, but nothing more specific. I never noticed anything until playback.
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 10:22 PM   #3
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They seem to run 6 to 9 frames. I've been told it is a CCD issue, but nothing more specific. I never noticed anything until playback.
How frequent are they? Can JVC fix it? I assume it's only in HDV, as opposed to 480i?
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Old July 23rd, 2006, 11:41 PM   #4
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The answer to those questions are- I don't know. I have at least 3 or 4 of them on the one tape I shot.
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Old July 24th, 2006, 02:37 AM   #5
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I've had them on every tape I've shot. They really throw things off but its not only in HDV modes, it also occurs in SD modes as well. I've actually induced it to happen more often in Sd mode than HDV mode but mostly within 30 minutes of switching from HDV to SD.
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Old July 24th, 2006, 04:16 AM   #6
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I've been reading a few posts on this forum compaining of intermittent red frames recorded by the HD100. What are these? How long do they last? Are they visible in the viewfinder while you're recording? Has JVC responded to this and explained what is causing them?
Bill,

Panic not. There are approx 12000+ HD100's sold - there is only a couple of posts regarding this on this forum. That is a very low percentage. Not really a major issue. Same with frame/tape drop-out issues.


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Old July 24th, 2006, 08:03 AM   #7
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I'm no engineer (but that doesn't stop from me pontificating like I am) but if there was an inherent flaw in the design that caused the red (which I got, as well as green flashes) I'd think it would come to the surface already.

I know Keith is one person who got a replacement - Keith did you get the replacement camera yet? Any chance to test for the problem?
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Old July 24th, 2006, 09:00 AM   #8
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I'm still waiting. It should be here within the next few days, and I'll check it out thorughly.

As far as the actual percentage of the 12,000 units shipped having this issue? Only one is really important, and that is the one you are using to capture one time events with. If the footage is ruined, it is a huge issue. In my case, it was just vacation footage. If I were charging a client to shoot their wedding, or doing a conference, or whatever it might be... how do you replace that tape? I don't care what the cause is, whether it is the tape JVC made for the HD series or the camera itself, JVC can't reproduce that moment, and they certainly won't reimburse you for money you lose.
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Old July 24th, 2006, 09:04 AM   #9
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Has JVC issues any kind of statement regarding these issues?

Does the red frames issue crop up right away, or have there been instances of using the camera several times without a problem and then WHAM?
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Old July 24th, 2006, 09:07 AM   #10
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I say panic all you can. $6,000 isn't cheap. So when it comes down to making such an investment I would panic, unfortunately I got mine a few days ago and I haven't seen any flaw yet other than the "mode changing"(knocking on wood as I speak). But i'll leave this for JVC to worry about. Hopefully I can have a very crummy month with this thing, just to get the worries over with and my warranty's worth. Speaking of that. Has anyone bought the 4 yr mack warranty?
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Old July 24th, 2006, 09:45 AM   #11
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Does the red frames issue crop up right away, or have there been instances of using the camera several times without a problem and then WHAM?
I used it without an issue. Have about 45 minutes of basketball with no problem.

But then it seemed more and more prevalent, and when I tested in indoors conditions, with different tapes, I couldn't get 10 minutes of footage without a problem. I couldn't find a pattern.

Quite sad, since the footage when unspoiled was spectacular.
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Old July 24th, 2006, 12:06 PM   #12
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I have never seen or heard of the Red Frame issue until now.
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Old July 25th, 2006, 04:40 PM   #13
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I'm temporarily locking this thread to control cross-posting.

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