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Stephen L. Noe · September 16th, 2006, 07:49 PM

Here is a clip taken in Tallinn, Estonia (Eastern Europe) for your enjoyment. All effects were done in camera (blurs etc). Color was adjusted in camera as well so this is raw stuff. The camera resolved dust on the ND filter during the macro zooms but that's life when your shooting docs, Right!? The Doc these shots belong to will be complete in Feb 07 for your viewing pleasure (if you watch PBS).

Tallinn Estonia Old Town wmv .

Enjoy and keep shooting!

Scott Harper · September 16th, 2006, 08:59 PM

Very beautiful stuff, Stephen. What lens and camera settings did you use?

Jonathan Nelson · September 17th, 2006, 03:09 AM

What tripod did you use?

I don't watch PBS that often but I just put that date on my calendar. I can't wait to see it. I'll tell my dad: "yeah, that was done with my camera"; he is a PBS whore.

Your footage looks great!

Steven Polley · September 17th, 2006, 09:39 PM

Stephen,
What was your primary recipe for the nice colours?
Also was this shot in 720 30p or 24p

Thanks

Jordi Dusanek · September 18th, 2006, 04:09 AM

That was awesome, a bit shaky sometimes, but very beatiful.

Stephen L. Noe · September 18th, 2006, 07:16 AM

Hi guys,

Scott, the principal scene file was Panamatch. I used ND2 + 0.6 ND filter and higher shutter speed on the stock 16x lens to get the images where I wanted them (color wise). Steven, it's a 30fps project (no film). Johnathan, the tripod was my ultra light Libec M20. Some shots in that piece were at full zoom like the weather vane and bell tower etc.I'm in the market for a new ultra light tripod since the M20 is a little too light for the HD-100. Jordi, you're right, I'll get around to correcting the nuances later.

The camera does make a beautiful image. Enjoy.

Luis Otero · September 18th, 2006, 09:46 AM

Stephen,

Beautiful! Great latitude and very nice compositions and angles. I am so happy I own one of this cameras.

Luis

David Scattergood · September 18th, 2006, 10:18 AM

Yes - superb Stephen.
You could worse than try the new (ish) Libec LS38 - perfect for the HD100 and brilliantly made.

Robert Castiglione · September 18th, 2006, 04:56 PM

"higher shutter speeds"

Stephen, yes beautiful looking footage. I notice you used the onbooard ND filter and then added another 2 stops of light reduction and adusted shutter speed. How does manipulation of shutter speeds affect colour?

Rob

Stephan Ahonen · September 18th, 2006, 05:18 PM

Shutter shouldn't affect color at all, it just increases or decreases the raw amount of light that the chips register. If you're using a scene file in which a color will change hue or saturation the brighter or darker it gets, then that's the only way shutter would affect colors.

Jack Walker · September 18th, 2006, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen L. Noe

Hi guys,

Scott, the principal scene file was Panamatch. I used ND2 + 0.6 ND filter and higher shutter speed on the stock 16x lens to get the images where I wanted them (color wise).

Stephan,

Doesn't he mean that he used the higher shutter speed to get less light, in combination to with the ND filters, to get bright, but not washed out colors.

On a side note, in some circumstances, wouldn't a higher shutter speed on video give a "crispness" to the image that would enhance the vibrancy of the colors?

Paolo Ciccone · September 18th, 2006, 06:10 PM

Amazingly crisp images Stephen, the front side of the church, toward the end, jumps out of the screen! :)

Mark Williams · September 18th, 2006, 06:11 PM

Stephen,

Very nice footage. Great color saturation.

Regards,

Stephan Ahonen · September 18th, 2006, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Walker

Doesn't he mean that he used the higher shutter speed to get less light, in combination to with the ND filters, to get bright, but not washed out colors.

ND = Neutral Density, doesn't affect color saturation or hue at all. All that ND and shutter do is cut down light to let you open your iris more and in shutter's case, strobify motion a bit.

Quote:

On a side note, in some circumstances, wouldn't a higher shutter speed on video give a "crispness" to the image that would enhance the vibrancy of the colors?

I'm not sure how the motion characteristic of the video affect color rendition. Might be worthwhile to try it out, but I've never noticed a visible difference in color rendering when I kick in shutter.

Miltos Pilalitos · September 18th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephan Ahonen

ND = Neutral Density, doesn't affect color saturation or hue at all.

When you have an ND filter on the lens you can open more the iris without overexposing your image.

The more open the iris is the more saturated the colours will be. This is what you learn in the first year of filmschool. :)

So, Neutral Density filters DO affect color saturation. You can try it yourself at home. Lock the camera in position and take the same shot with the iris almost closed and wide open (adjust exposure with ND). When you compare the two takes you will see that the one with the Iris open has obviously more colour saturation.

September 16th, 2006, 07:49 PM	#1
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Footage from Tallinn, Estonia Here is a clip taken in Tallinn, Estonia (Eastern Europe) for your enjoyment. All effects were done in camera (blurs etc). Color was adjusted in camera as well so this is raw stuff. The camera resolved dust on the ND filter during the macro zooms but that's life when your shooting docs, Right!? The Doc these shots belong to will be complete in Feb 07 for your viewing pleasure (if you watch PBS). Tallinn Estonia Old Town wmv . Enjoy and keep shooting!

September 17th, 2006, 09:39 PM	#4
Steven Polley New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tupelo, MS Posts: 24	Stephen, What was your primary recipe for the nice colours? Also was this shot in 720 30p or 24p Thanks __________________ Steven Polley www.yourinfocus.net

September 18th, 2006, 07:16 AM	#6
Stephen L. Noe Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,214	Hi guys, Scott, the principal scene file was Panamatch. I used ND2 + 0.6 ND filter and higher shutter speed on the stock 16x lens to get the images where I wanted them (color wise). Steven, it's a 30fps project (no film). Johnathan, the tripod was my ultra light Libec M20. Some shots in that piece were at full zoom like the weather vane and bell tower etc.I'm in the market for a new ultra light tripod since the M20 is a little too light for the HD-100. Jordi, you're right, I'll get around to correcting the nuances later. The camera does make a beautiful image. Enjoy. __________________ Advanced Avid Liquid Training found Here

September 18th, 2006, 06:10 PM	#12
Paolo Ciccone Trustee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,116	Amazingly crisp images Stephen, the front side of the church, toward the end, jumps out of the screen! :) __________________ Paolo http://www.paolociccone.com Demo Reel

September 18th, 2006, 06:11 PM	#13
Mark Williams Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Deep South, U.S. Posts: 1,526	Stephen, Very nice footage. Great color saturation. Regards, __________________ Mark videos: http://vimeo.com/channels/3523 Stock: http://www.pond5.com/artist/mark29

September 16th, 2006, 08:59 PM	#2
Scott Harper Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 119	Very beautiful stuff, Stephen. What lens and camera settings did you use?

September 17th, 2006, 03:09 AM	#3
Jonathan Nelson Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kingman Arizona Posts: 298	What tripod did you use? I don't watch PBS that often but I just put that date on my calendar. I can't wait to see it. I'll tell my dad: "yeah, that was done with my camera"; he is a PBS whore. Your footage looks great!

September 18th, 2006, 04:09 AM	#5
Jordi Dusanek Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38	That was awesome, a bit shaky sometimes, but very beatiful.

September 18th, 2006, 09:46 AM	#7
Luis Otero Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Dodge, IA Posts: 221	Stephen, Beautiful! Great latitude and very nice compositions and angles. I am so happy I own one of this cameras. Luis

September 18th, 2006, 10:18 AM	#8
David Scattergood Major Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 755	Yes - superb Stephen. You could worse than try the new (ish) Libec LS38 - perfect for the HD100 and brilliantly made.

September 18th, 2006, 04:56 PM	#9
Robert Castiglione Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fremantle, Western Australia Posts: 253	"higher shutter speeds" Stephen, yes beautiful looking footage. I notice you used the onbooard ND filter and then added another 2 stops of light reduction and adusted shutter speed. How does manipulation of shutter speeds affect colour? Rob

September 18th, 2006, 05:18 PM	#10
Stephan Ahonen Major Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 512	Shutter shouldn't affect color at all, it just increases or decreases the raw amount of light that the chips register. If you're using a scene file in which a color will change hue or saturation the brighter or darker it gets, then that's the only way shutter would affect colors.