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Old November 15th, 2006, 07:12 AM   #16
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Not correct. HD200 and HD250 are same size and weight
The HD250 is somewhat longer and the batteries plate is somewhat further backwards - or so it seems. The weight might be about the same, but due to tha battery being further backwards the balance should be better. Or isn't the battery plate actually further backward then the HD100 or HD200 with a IDX adapter?
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Old November 15th, 2006, 10:33 AM   #17
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Carl, I know you had mentioned that the official price had not been released yet, but doing a search for the HD200 on the JVC websight yields a price of $8995. When it had first been announced it was going to be $7995. Is there a reason for the $1000 increase or is it just an unofficial price on the websight until a final price is decided?
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Old November 15th, 2006, 11:05 AM   #18
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JVC just issued a press release today indicating that the price of the HD200 will be $8995 with a lens and $7995 without.
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Old November 15th, 2006, 02:59 PM   #19
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Carl, I know you had mentioned that the official price had not been released yet, but doing a search for the HD200 on the JVC websight yields a price of $8995. When it had first been announced it was going to be $7995. Is there a reason for the $1000 increase or is it just an unofficial price on the websight until a final price is decided?
The preliminary price of $7995 announced in April was just that - preliminary. As the product development progressed, it was decided to put in some additional upgrades, like the 14 bit A/D, the new Super Encoder, and the han-held CCU connection. Upgrades like this drove the price to a little higher level.

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Old November 15th, 2006, 03:01 PM   #20
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The HD250 is somewhat longer and the batteries plate is somewhat further backwards - or so it seems. The weight might be about the same, but due to tha battery being further backwards the balance should be better. Or isn't the battery plate actually further backward then the HD100 or HD200 with a IDX adapter?
Actually, if you compare the length of a GYHD110 or HD100with the Anton adaptor and 16x lens to the length of a GYHD200 or GYHD250 with the same battery adaptor and lens, they are virtually the same.
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Old November 16th, 2006, 03:14 AM   #21
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Aha, The HD100, HD110 and HD200 have exactly the same body, right? (apart from the silver- or gold-coloured line on the side)
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Old November 16th, 2006, 06:42 AM   #22
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Aha, The HD100, HD110 and HD200 have exactly the same body, right? (apart from the silver- or gold-coloured line on the side)

Not right. So far in this product line, there are two body styles.

The GY-HD100 and GY-HD110 share the same body. (first body style)

The GY-HD200 and GY-HD250 share the same body. ( second body style)
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Old November 16th, 2006, 06:56 AM   #23
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Ah - now I understand. But if the HD200 doesn't have SDI and all, what kind of connections are there in the part behind the shoulderrest? Also, A/B is standard on the HD200 then?

The pictures I have seen from the HD200 looked like the HD100, but that's wrong then?
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Old November 16th, 2006, 06:58 AM   #24
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Carl, are you absolutely certain?

this picture from the JVC booth tells me I was right, I'm afraid...

http://www.digitalschnitt.de/info/NAB2006_5.html
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Old November 16th, 2006, 11:35 AM   #25
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Carl, are you absolutely certain?

this picture from the JVC booth tells me I was right, I'm afraid...

http://www.digitalschnitt.de/info/NAB2006_5.html
I saw the HD200 yesterday at DV Expo. It does indeed have the same body as the HD250.

If I remember correctly from reading past comments here, the original HD200 used the same body as the HD100, but this was changed -- which also caused an increase in price of the HD200 over the tentative price that was originally announced.

I was told at the JVC booth that the HD200 will also come with the Anton Bauer battery plate, the same as the HD250. However, the plate can be replaced with an IDX plate for people with that style battery.

The HD250 comes standard with the JVC tripod plate, which is the same as a Sony, which is acutally a Vinten (if I understand what they said) -- but the HD200 does not come standard with the tripod plate.

At the show they had an HD250 with a complete studio setup, on a pedestal with a very nice telemprompter, monitor, zoom and focus controls, etc.
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Old November 16th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #26
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Carl, are you absolutely certain?

this picture from the JVC booth tells me I was right, I'm afraid...

http://www.digitalschnitt.de/info/NAB2006_5.html
What you see in that picture is a preliminary mock-up - not the real unit. Trust me, the HD200 and HD250 share the same body!
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Old November 17th, 2006, 05:10 AM   #27
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I've seen it on the JVC website... it makes the HD200 even more interesting then it already was in the old body. Finally it'll have a 2-point secure connection with tripod and steadicam.

Will there be trade-in possibilities with a HD101 or should I ask that locally?
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Old November 17th, 2006, 10:55 AM   #28
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I've seen it on the JVC website... it makes the HD200 even more interesting then it already was in the old body. Finally it'll have a 2-point secure connection with tripod and steadicam.

Will there be trade-in possibilities with a HD101 or should I ask that locally?

Ask locally.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 11:45 PM   #29
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Carl can you tell me which one of these features would benefit a "film maker" objective.
From the filmmakers perspective... although the saying goes "content is King", I would still consider quality to be the key. With the HDSDI on the 250 it should be a very strong consideration. Even more so at the small amount of a $2000 spread between the 200 and 250. That's just our take of course.

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Old November 18th, 2006, 12:29 AM   #30
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With the HDSDI on the 250 it should be a very strong consideration. Even more so at the small amount of a $2000 spread between the 200 and 250. That's just our take of course.

Daniel, forgive my ignorance but what does the HDSDI do that's so important except faster uncompressed transfer? I don't think I understand its importance so I would appreciate it if you could enlighten me.
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