HD200 in low light, not so much noise?
Truth is I've got no business posting technical points on this forum because I know about as much about this stuff as the chick I just saw flipping chopped meat down at Burger World. Still, somehow there's an HD200 perched up on a nice tripod just beside me. Call me a dreamer, call me dillusional - just do me a favor and don't call me a carpenter...
I've noticed some growing concern on this forum (and on my mind) about noise on this rig so when I got home tonight (just as the sun was setting) I brushed off the sawdust and rushed out to the back yard to shoot some low light video (hopefully WITHOUT accidentally hitting the gain switch to the middle setting again). No lights, no direct sunlight, 24p, 48 shutter, no gain. Here is the Birds of Paradise flower screen grab: http://www.gotagteam.com/images/Sach...aradiseWEB.jpg Here is a ten second clip: http://www.gotagteam.com/images/Sach...OFparadise.mov If anyone's got a request, I'm willing to accommodate. Maybe I'll learn too.. |
What scene files are you using - i can get images like that with my camera - but its when you have either long/wide shots with darkness in them that it goes terrible - check the previous screens of that boy at the beach in other 200 thread- thats what referring to
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http://www.gotagteam.com/images/Sach...eSCENEFILE.jpg Oddly, the still from the clip looks to be more red than what I see in FCP, and from what plays in the .mov For what it's worth I kind of blew it on that still of the kid on the beach. Possibly on two counts (say it with me now... Car-pen-ter) - ONE: my big paws must have knocked the external gain switch from the "L" setting to the "M" setting because I found it set there the next morning (definitely not on purpose). Surely that didn't help one bit. TWO: In another recent post about backfocus I learned I could hook up the camera to our tv to use as a focus monitor. Until I learned that recent lesson I was having a helluva time telling what WASN'T in focus on the wide angle of my backfocus setting attempts. I don't know if this added to the horror of that shot or not, but it surely didn't help much.. |
Ahh yes i see - well ive had probelms like that with gain low - detail low - in low light setting (eeek)
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Liam. |
you need lights
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I would like to see what's in the link, for me to compare...Thanks |
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maybe my photos can help you ^^
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my test photo
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As I understand it the alleged noise challenge only exists in low light situations, perhaps when lights are NOT being used - which is why I shared the examples I took, with no lights, which I don't find too noisy at all.
While we're on the noise subject, I will say that I've noticed since experimenting some more that the noise challenge doesn't seem directly related to simply "low light." In fact with careful attention to settings (which I did NOT take here) I bet "no noise" can be achieved. Here is a still I took for Liam some time after the manager of Burger World got off work last night. For the record, the only light ON the shot is the light IN the shot (40watt). I adjusted nothing from the Birds of Paradise settings except shutter speed and Macro (surely if I had this would look a lot better): http://www.gotagteam.com/images/Sach...racy-night.jpg So far the only noise I struggle with still is what Tyson pointed out - when I'm shooting a bright daylight shot with a dark area in it. Although I HAVE greatly improved results from my first boy at the beach disaster shoot. |
That is a very nice frame - i can't even get frames that clear with similar lighting.
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TCv3 on your 250?
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Of course, just ordering the color balance chart and tweaking away is probably the best way to go...but standing on the shoulders of giants get's you higher, faster than building your own ladder... |
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I went at the settings by simply copying them, then I tweeked them just a touch on my own (as I say, without a monitor - so I may have just screwed them up). Like you, I'm convinced there's a lot more lurking inside this machine than I can realize, yet, so I'll be pursuing a monitor to get it dialed in after next month's bill gets paid. Also, I can't wait to have a much better view of exactly what's getting shot. Kind of ridiculous to judge an olympic sized HD picture by using a wallet sized monitor. And then some day, when I grow up, I'll get a better lens... |
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