HD200 Series Scene File Recipes

G. Lee Gordon · December 8th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djee Smit

when I 'save as' I just get a small 8kb .ts file, which I can't play. How can you play this file (on a mac)?

*edit* it works.. thanks, looks great

I'm experiencing the same problem. What was the fix? What is the URL for the pictorial examples of the scene files?

Kevin Ahronson · December 9th, 2008, 05:20 AM

I've got a 40Mb .ts file that opens in Windows Media player. It plays a blank screen with a little bit of audio with someone shouting "Action".

Help!!

G. Lee Gordon · December 26th, 2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G. Lee Gordon

I'm experiencing the same problem. What was the fix? What is the URL for the pictorial examples of the scene files?

Can somebody help the more challenged such as myself by guiding me through getting this info?

Ted Ramasola · December 26th, 2008, 06:06 PM

Its on the first post. Theres a PDF file for download

G. Lee Gordon · December 30th, 2008, 09:50 PM

Ted, I can receive the PDF without a problem. I want the download with the pictoral examples.

Marc de Jesus · February 19th, 2009, 01:52 AM

Hi, please have patience with my rookie question :) this is the first time i've strayed from the factory settings.. usually i would shoot and white balance with the factory settings and color correct in post...

now that i got an m2 adapter and saw some great footage from people online, i was turned on to the truecolor settings and the ones posted by tim... however, when i apply either truecolor or the superwide settings, i get a ton of light loss... i was testing it out with a 25watt anton bauer camera light as the sole light source about 2 ft away from the subject...

is this because of the adapter?? or am i just doing something wrong?? thanks for any help..

Ted Ramasola · February 19th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Marc,

Its the nature of the beast. Especially the M2. Its the one that demands more light. But, apparently this gives good looking bokeh. New adapters like the Me2 and from the others introduce new GG that gives a brighter image at the expense of good looking bokeh.

Its a choice you make. ...for now.

Ted

P.S. just saw its your first post. welcome to DVINFO!

Marc de Jesus · February 27th, 2009, 06:21 PM

Hmmm thanks for the response... I guess it's a matter of really experimenting with scene files in combination with the m2... btw, again, this is my novice-ness of scene file recipe speaking.. but can't you duplicate the colors produced by the scene files in post??? assuming the original footage isn't overblown?? thanks...

Ted Ramasola · February 27th, 2009, 10:52 PM

The scene files not only set your color but also contrast, detail, black stretch among others.

Having said that, you would want to use one with the most neutral look in conjunction with your workflow. This would give you flexibility in post.
An example why you want a neutral setting is If you use a setting which compresses your blacks you cant recover that in post. Whereas with stretched blacks you can always crush it in post.
For me I use a neutral look with more accurate color settings. I dont find the Effects looks( like sepia, mono, etc) useful because these are the looks that, as you said, you can almost replicate in post.

Ted

Marc de Jesus · February 28th, 2009, 04:36 PM

right, so does the "true color" setting achieve the achieve the neutral colors?? Thanks

Ted Ramasola · February 28th, 2009, 10:35 PM

Supposedly it does. Paolo's True Color for the HD100 was a great setting giving you rich colors that are spot on. It is ideal when you don't want to do much tweaking in post. Its rich and ideal for vibrant colored commercials for instance. You can however desaturate in post.

The true color setting he made for the HD200, however, gives too much boost to the reds, I suggest that if you tweak it, do it with a color chart as a tweaking in one channel affects its complement as well.

In my tests and actual use its Tim's superwide that gives a neutral and color accurate palette for the HD200. You may just want to assign the stretch and normal black settings to the two user buttons to toggle it on and off to suite your taste. It produces images that is intended to be
graded in post. But it gives you latitude in doing your grading.

The Hd200 and hd100 uses different DSPs so the scene files are not totally interchangeable between them.

Juan Todoli · June 3rd, 2009, 08:08 AM

(Edited. Didn't see HD100 recipies link)

Lee Mullen · November 11th, 2012, 10:11 AM

Sorry to drag up an old post but can somebody advice me where I can find Tim's scene .scn files?

Tim Dashwood · November 11th, 2012, 08:19 PM

I didn't publish scn files because I had a 250 at the time, with pre-release firmware, and the scn files would have caused issues in most HD200 cameras. The pdf in post #1 of this thread is the next best thing.

December 30th, 2008, 09:50 PM	#35
G. Lee Gordon Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 431	Ted, I can receive the PDF without a problem. I want the download with the pictoral examples. __________________ "Get Er Done!!!"

November 11th, 2012, 10:11 AM	#43
Lee Mullen Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Western Australia Posts: 576	Re: HD200 Series Scene File Recipes Sorry to drag up an old post but can somebody advice me where I can find Tim's scene .scn files?

November 11th, 2012, 08:19 PM	#44
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	Re: HD200 Series Scene File Recipes I didn't publish scn files because I had a 250 at the time, with pre-release firmware, and the scn files would have caused issues in most HD200 cameras. The pdf in post #1 of this thread is the next best thing. __________________ Tim Dashwood

December 9th, 2008, 05:20 AM	#32
Kevin Ahronson New Boot Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sutton, Surrey, England Posts: 9	I've got a 40Mb .ts file that opens in Windows Media player. It plays a blank screen with a little bit of audio with someone shouting "Action". Help!!

December 26th, 2008, 06:06 PM	#34
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Its on the first post. Theres a PDF file for download

February 19th, 2009, 01:52 AM	#36
Marc de Jesus Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fullerton, California Posts: 91	Hi, please have patience with my rookie question :) this is the first time i've strayed from the factory settings.. usually i would shoot and white balance with the factory settings and color correct in post... now that i got an m2 adapter and saw some great footage from people online, i was turned on to the truecolor settings and the ones posted by tim... however, when i apply either truecolor or the superwide settings, i get a ton of light loss... i was testing it out with a 25watt anton bauer camera light as the sole light source about 2 ft away from the subject... is this because of the adapter?? or am i just doing something wrong?? thanks for any help..

February 19th, 2009, 11:36 AM	#37
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Marc, Its the nature of the beast. Especially the M2. Its the one that demands more light. But, apparently this gives good looking bokeh. New adapters like the Me2 and from the others introduce new GG that gives a brighter image at the expense of good looking bokeh. Its a choice you make. ...for now. Ted P.S. just saw its your first post. welcome to DVINFO!

February 27th, 2009, 06:21 PM	#38
Marc de Jesus Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fullerton, California Posts: 91	Hmmm thanks for the response... I guess it's a matter of really experimenting with scene files in combination with the m2... btw, again, this is my novice-ness of scene file recipe speaking.. but can't you duplicate the colors produced by the scene files in post??? assuming the original footage isn't overblown?? thanks...

February 27th, 2009, 10:52 PM	#39
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	The scene files not only set your color but also contrast, detail, black stretch among others. Having said that, you would want to use one with the most neutral look in conjunction with your workflow. This would give you flexibility in post. An example why you want a neutral setting is If you use a setting which compresses your blacks you cant recover that in post. Whereas with stretched blacks you can always crush it in post. For me I use a neutral look with more accurate color settings. I dont find the Effects looks( like sepia, mono, etc) useful because these are the looks that, as you said, you can almost replicate in post. Ted

February 28th, 2009, 04:36 PM	#40
Marc de Jesus Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fullerton, California Posts: 91	right, so does the "true color" setting achieve the achieve the neutral colors?? Thanks

February 28th, 2009, 10:35 PM	#41
Ted Ramasola Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Allen, Texas U.S.A Posts: 1,117	Supposedly it does. Paolo's True Color for the HD100 was a great setting giving you rich colors that are spot on. It is ideal when you don't want to do much tweaking in post. Its rich and ideal for vibrant colored commercials for instance. You can however desaturate in post. The true color setting he made for the HD200, however, gives too much boost to the reds, I suggest that if you tweak it, do it with a color chart as a tweaking in one channel affects its complement as well. In my tests and actual use its Tim's superwide that gives a neutral and color accurate palette for the HD200. You may just want to assign the stretch and normal black settings to the two user buttons to toggle it on and off to suite your taste. It produces images that is intended to be graded in post. But it gives you latitude in doing your grading. The Hd200 and hd100 uses different DSPs so the scene files are not totally interchangeable between them.

June 3rd, 2009, 08:08 AM	#42
Juan Todoli Regular Crew Join Date: May 2009 Location: Gandia, Spain Posts: 68	(Edited. Didn't see HD100 recipies link)