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Old January 28th, 2013, 12:10 PM   #16
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Was there any clear temperature changes?
Or did the 600 stand in the sun before sun down?
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Old January 28th, 2013, 05:17 PM   #17
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Did you need to open the aperture as the recording progressed?
Oh, of course. It just occurred to me - I had auto iris on. The aperture would have opened up as the sky got darker, making the DoF shallower.
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Old January 28th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #18
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I just got my camera as well, I shot some footage in near dark at a conference, I had to gain all the way to -18 to get anything visible, yes it was noisy, but completely useable!

I noticed the same thing about the door on the SD cards, however I havn't felt any creeks in the handle. The screen was solid and could just be friction sounds. The internal mic picks up anything you do on the body, and I expected this so I have an NTG-2 hooked up. I hope to possibly get some good stock b-roll of Germany tomorrow so I will try to post some of that.

I have to play with the detail settings as well as the skin detail options, I don't fully understand them yet.

here is my clip, I dubbed in the audio again, but left some of my shotgun audio back in for ambience.

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Old January 28th, 2013, 10:13 PM   #19
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I just got my camera as well, I shot some footage in near dark at a conference, I had to gain all the way to -18 to get anything visible, yes it was noisy, but completely useable!

I noticed the same thing about the door on the SD cards, however I havn't felt any creeks in the handle. The screen was solid and could just be friction sounds. The internal mic picks up anything you do on the body, and I expected this so I have an NTG-2 hooked up. I hope to possibly get some good stock b-roll of Germany tomorrow so I will try to post some of that.

I have to play with the detail settings as well as the skin detail options, I don't fully understand them yet.

here is my clip, I dubbed in the audio again, but left some of my shotgun audio back in for ambience.

Rachelle's Dance on Vimeo
Hm I'm confused by this. If I use 18dB gain the image is a LOT noisier than yours. So bad that I wouldn't use it. Pretty sure mine is noisier even at 6dB... Could there be an issue with my camera?

Might do some more low light testing tonight.
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Old January 29th, 2013, 07:36 PM   #20
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My understanding is that the noise was addressed by the firmware update released in December. Not having one of these yet, I don't know what version number it is.

Hope this helps.

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Old January 30th, 2013, 10:59 AM   #21
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I just got my camera as well, I shot some footage in near dark at a conference, I had to gain all the way to -18 to get anything visible, yes it was noisy, but completely useable!

I noticed the same thing about the door on the SD cards, however I havn't felt any creeks in the handle. The screen was solid and could just be friction sounds. The internal mic picks up anything you do on the body, and I expected this so I have an NTG-2 hooked up. I hope to possibly get some good stock b-roll of Germany tomorrow so I will try to post some of that.

I have to play with the detail settings as well as the skin detail options, I don't fully understand them yet.

here is my clip, I dubbed in the audio again, but left some of my shotgun audio back in for ambience.

Rachelle's Dance on Vimeo
Goosepimpels so nice from whom is the music?
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Old January 30th, 2013, 01:49 PM   #22
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Tim the footage looks great. We have shot some demo footage with our Camera and our customers who purchased these from us have been very pleased.
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Old January 30th, 2013, 09:43 PM   #23
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Some more footage I put together. Shot entirely on the HM600.

Note that some of the shots are colour graded.

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Old January 30th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #24
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Jody, can you post your videos of the GY-HM600 to Vimeo? I hate Youtube, their compression is so bad, It makes it hard to evaluate any video. Or if there is a place we could download a short file?

Love the range on that lens!
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Old January 30th, 2013, 10:53 PM   #25
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Jody, can you post your videos of the GY-HM600 to Vimeo? I hate Youtube, their compression is so bad, It makes it hard to evaluate any video. Or if there is a place we could download a short file?

Love the range on that lens!
Yep not a problem, I'll get a copy up onto Vimeo.

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Here's a 12mbit .mp4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/61lxxwxmgg...Main_Final.mp4

Would recommend downloading the file as the player seems to compress the video.

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Old January 31st, 2013, 06:20 PM   #26
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Here's some more low light footage. Definitely better than I first thought, it's quite usable at 0dB. I'll try and get some 6dB tests up too.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5icrlzv36w...20Test%202.mp4

My expectations were obviously too high at first. As I mentioned, this is my first professional video camera aside from the XA10 so I wasn't sure what to expect.

From what I can tell, the JVC tries to maintain as much detail as possible in low light as possible, while the XA10 sacrifices detail to reduce noise and produce a cleaner image. I think that's why I was so confused as to why the HM600 was so noisy.

The first low light tests can be found here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/jvc-gy-h...0-arrived.html but honestly, I'd ignore them.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #27
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I got out for a day trip to Prague and filmed this. I accidentally turned the LowLUX mode on and so some of the footage is grainy. You can also see how the focus started to search a few times. This was not obvious on the LCD screen, so I just need to be aware of it when using the camera.

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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #28
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Thanks Tim. And thanks for making the original 1080p available for download.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 07:37 PM   #29
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I got out for a day trip to Prague and filmed this. I accidentally turned the LowLUX mode on and so some of the footage is grainy. You can also see how the focus started to search a few times. This was not obvious on the LCD screen, so I just need to be aware of it when using the camera.

Prague Day trip on Vimeo
Thanks for the video.

I've had some issues with the focus searching too. I don't trust the auto focus at all.

I was doing some testing the other day, and sometimes even when the camera has good focus, it keeps hunting.

Hopefully this is an issue JVC can look into.
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Old February 10th, 2013, 11:23 PM   #30
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I got out for a day trip to Prague and filmed this. I accidentally turned the LowLUX mode on and so some of the footage is grainy. You can also see how the focus started to search a few times. This was not obvious on the LCD screen, so I just need to be aware of it when using the camera.

Prague Day trip on Vimeo
Hey TIm, Nice video. Good choice of subject matter. I have watched it a few times the lens looks pretty good.
In a few parts, especially of the cathedral, it looks like there is some wavering of the video, like there was a heat wave in front of the lens. DO you see what I'm seeing? What ere the Gain settings? and all the other also.

Thanks,
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