JVC to unveil new "video acquisition product" during Macworld

Alex Pitstra · January 6th, 2009, 10:29 AM

If this is a wish list for new devices... What would be really great is Matrox/AJA IoHD/DR-HD100 hybrid-product...

I mean a small, lean and mean, native ProRes 422 (and other codecs) recorder with component in, HDMI-out, HD-SDI in AND out, on-board battery + D-TAP cable, firewire and an ejectable ExpressCard for solid state storage.

Of course, the ejectable card can be inserted into the ExpressCard slot of a laptop, or the device itself can be hooked up to a computer via FireWire.

But, an additional cool feature would be this...
The ExpressCard can also act as a gateway to the IO-interfaces of the portable recorder-unit, like the Matrox MXO2! To enable this, the device comes with an additional 3 GB/s cable to connect the ExpressCard (which is also the Solid State harddisk) to the recorder-unit, enabling your system to output, via a 3 Gb/s connection, full res HD on a HDTV or professional monitor for critical color grading. It would also enable you to capture live trough one of the HD inputs of the device, maybe even uncompressed.

In addition to this, in camera/recording mode, the device enables to loop trough the input to an HDMI or HD-SDI output, so you still have a full res HD Preview in the field, using affordable HDMI TV's or professional HD-SDI monitors, while capturing the camera output to the unit.

All in one device...

Liam Hall · January 6th, 2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Alvarez

Not likely, but if we're in the realm of wish lists, I'd prefer AVID DNxHD - its a better codec than ProRes. (Let the flames begin.) ;)

EDIT: Wait, I just checked, and it seems JVC HAS a license to use DNxHD... interesting. They could offer BOTH ProRes, and DNxHD.

What's Avid got to do with it??? At least, what's it got to do with tomorrow's announcement?

The press release states "the introduction of the world's first video acquisition product developed for Final Cut post production".

BTW have you done a side by side of ProRes and DNxHD? I'd be interested to know your findings.

Liam.

Steve Oakley · January 7th, 2009, 12:56 AM

ok.macworld has came... and ????? nothing on pro.jvc.com ? so whats the word ?

Michael Galvan · January 7th, 2009, 08:39 AM

It's supposed to be revealed tonight.

My hopes are a camcorder mountable HD-SDI to ProRes recorder, which gets offloaded onto SxS cards or internal drive.

Would be great for my Canon XL H1S, especially since I shoot alot tethered to the AJA IO HD.

Shaun Roemich · January 7th, 2009, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Galvan

My hopes are a camcorder mountable HD-SDI to ProRes recorder, which gets offloaded onto SxS cards or internal drive.

With optional component inputs and I'm sold.

Steve Oakley · January 7th, 2009, 02:20 PM

I don't care about prores simply because its not cross platform. yes know PC's can now read ProRes, but they can't write it.

using a higher data rate of Mpeg2 like 35 or 50mbits though would be great. putting in enough CPU power to encode HD to ProRes will be expensive both in price and power. be careful what you wish for.

just gimme a $99 FW to iPod cable and let the iPod work as a DDR :)

Daniel Weber · January 7th, 2009, 10:26 PM

So any news from the Meet? Does anyone have a Blackberry or iPhone (gotta be a couple hundred of those there) that can spill the beans on the new JVC announcement?

Daniel Weber

Keith Moreau · January 7th, 2009, 10:59 PM

I'm here at the supermeet. It's a new HD camcorder that records .mov xdcam files to sdhc cards -potentially awesome FCP workflow. Under $4K. No demo footage shown. Should be info on pro.jvc.com tomorrow. It's something personally I could potentially use but who knows what the image quality is like, they didn't have demo footage which is suspect to me. It's a very small cam so small sensors and therefore probably not great in low light or will have inherently high dof.

Daniel Weber · January 7th, 2009, 11:05 PM

Thanks!! That's what I thought it was going to be. I saw a video of this camera that was shot at IBC, but no one was talking about the format that was going to be recorded on the SDHD cards. All the speculation was AVCHD, but they kept saying Pro camera and to me AVCHD is not a pro format.

I think that the chips will be 1/3". This is a great B roll camera and at a price of $4000 will compete well with the Panasonic camera that sells for about the same price.

Pretty cool when you consider that the SDHC chips are so cost efficient when compared to shooting with the SxS cards that I use on my EX1.

Did they give a shipping date?

Thanks for the update,

Daniel Weber

Keith Moreau · January 8th, 2009, 12:19 AM

They said April. Re EX1 and SDHC, we can now record on that with SDHC and Expersscard adapter -it works great with the EX1.

Daniel Weber · January 8th, 2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Moreau

They said April. Re EX1 and SDHC, we can now record on that with SDHC and Expersscard adapter -it works great with the EX1.

Thanks for the update on the shipping date (projected).

I am aware of the SDHC option for the EX1. I guess that I am worried about the data rates though. I don't want to give up the option to overcrank. I will buy some and test it out though. I don't want to take this discussion any further here since it is the wrong forum.

Nice move on JVC's part with this camera and the FCP workflow. Did they say if it would do the 35 mb XDCAM or only 25 mb? 35mb would be great in such a small package. Kind of worried about the lens though.

Daniel Weber

Tim Dashwood · January 8th, 2009, 01:05 AM

I started a new thread with all the specs I have so far. Most of the questions posed above are answered there.

Yes 35mbps. 1/4" CCD.

Locking this thread. Please post comments based on specs in the new thread.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/jvc-pro-h...camcorder.html

January 7th, 2009, 08:39 AM	#19
Michael Galvan Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 775	It's supposed to be revealed tonight. My hopes are a camcorder mountable HD-SDI to ProRes recorder, which gets offloaded onto SxS cards or internal drive. Would be great for my Canon XL H1S, especially since I shoot alot tethered to the AJA IO HD. __________________ www.michaelgalvan.com www.screenanthology.com

January 8th, 2009, 01:05 AM	#27
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	I started a new thread with all the specs I have so far. Most of the questions posed above are answered there. Yes 35mbps. 1/4" CCD. Locking this thread. Please post comments based on specs in the new thread. http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/jvc-pro-h...camcorder.html __________________ Tim Dashwood

January 6th, 2009, 10:29 AM	#16
Alex Pitstra New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Groningen, The Netherlands Posts: 15	If this is a wish list for new devices... What would be really great is Matrox/AJA IoHD/DR-HD100 hybrid-product... I mean a small, lean and mean, native ProRes 422 (and other codecs) recorder with component in, HDMI-out, HD-SDI in AND out, on-board battery + D-TAP cable, firewire and an ejectable ExpressCard for solid state storage. Of course, the ejectable card can be inserted into the ExpressCard slot of a laptop, or the device itself can be hooked up to a computer via FireWire. But, an additional cool feature would be this... The ExpressCard can also act as a gateway to the IO-interfaces of the portable recorder-unit, like the Matrox MXO2! To enable this, the device comes with an additional 3 GB/s cable to connect the ExpressCard (which is also the Solid State harddisk) to the recorder-unit, enabling your system to output, via a 3 Gb/s connection, full res HD on a HDTV or professional monitor for critical color grading. It would also enable you to capture live trough one of the HD inputs of the device, maybe even uncompressed. In addition to this, in camera/recording mode, the device enables to loop trough the input to an HDMI or HD-SDI output, so you still have a full res HD Preview in the field, using affordable HDMI TV's or professional HD-SDI monitors, while capturing the camera output to the unit. All in one device...

January 7th, 2009, 12:56 AM	#18
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	ok.macworld has came... and ????? nothing on pro.jvc.com ? so whats the word ?

January 7th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#21
Steve Oakley Trustee Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1,158	I don't care about prores simply because its not cross platform. yes know PC's can now read ProRes, but they can't write it. using a higher data rate of Mpeg2 like 35 or 50mbits though would be great. putting in enough CPU power to encode HD to ProRes will be expensive both in price and power. be careful what you wish for. just gimme a $99 FW to iPod cable and let the iPod work as a DDR :)

January 7th, 2009, 10:26 PM	#22
Daniel Weber Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 696	So any news from the Meet? Does anyone have a Blackberry or iPhone (gotta be a couple hundred of those there) that can spill the beans on the new JVC announcement? Daniel Weber

January 7th, 2009, 10:59 PM	#23
Keith Moreau Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane, California Posts: 530	I'm here at the supermeet. It's a new HD camcorder that records .mov xdcam files to sdhc cards -potentially awesome FCP workflow. Under $4K. No demo footage shown. Should be info on pro.jvc.com tomorrow. It's something personally I could potentially use but who knows what the image quality is like, they didn't have demo footage which is suspect to me. It's a very small cam so small sensors and therefore probably not great in low light or will have inherently high dof.

January 7th, 2009, 11:05 PM	#24
Daniel Weber Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 696	Thanks!! That's what I thought it was going to be. I saw a video of this camera that was shot at IBC, but no one was talking about the format that was going to be recorded on the SDHD cards. All the speculation was AVCHD, but they kept saying Pro camera and to me AVCHD is not a pro format. I think that the chips will be 1/3". This is a great B roll camera and at a price of $4000 will compete well with the Panasonic camera that sells for about the same price. Pretty cool when you consider that the SDHC chips are so cost efficient when compared to shooting with the SxS cards that I use on my EX1. Did they give a shipping date? Thanks for the update, Daniel Weber

January 8th, 2009, 12:19 AM	#25
Keith Moreau Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane, California Posts: 530	They said April. Re EX1 and SDHC, we can now record on that with SDHC and Expersscard adapter -it works great with the EX1.