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Scott Kase March 11th, 2013 05:39 PM

New JVC GY-HM70 AVCHD Camcorder
 
not sure this is right spot for this since, I saw and shot with the new full size shoulder mount JVC GY-HM70 AVCHD Camcorder today at the JVC WPPI Booth# 1473 at MGM in Vegas. 1995.00 MSLP. Some Features 1080/60P, 1/2" Cmos Imager, Manual or Auto control. Also has option to shoot at 300fps.

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Tim Dashwood March 11th, 2013 05:45 PM

JVC announces shoulder mount HM70
 
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$2000 SRP. It looks a bit like the HM100 and HM700 had a baby. Brochure PDF

1/2.3" CMOS sensor
F1.2-5.6 Iris
1080i60/50 or 1080p60/50. No 24p
AVCHD recording up to 28Mbps
no XLR input (1/8" stereo jack only) so likely no +48V phantom power
It seems that the microphone shown is not included. It is model MZ-V10 and plugs directly into the 1/8" jack.

Jody Arnott March 11th, 2013 10:33 PM

Re: JVC announces shoulder mount HM70
 
50/60p, shoulder mount and 300fps look great, but surely no XLRs would put most professionals off buying this?

If JVC brought out a camera like the HM600//650 with 50/60p and a shoulder mount, I think they'd have a winner.

Unregistered Guest March 12th, 2013 11:25 AM

Re: JVC announces shoulder mount HM70
 
JVC always seems to fall short of what professionals want. So close, but so far.
I agree about a shoulder mount 600/650, but JVC can't seem to take a hint.

Glen Vandermolen March 12th, 2013 05:43 PM

Re: JVC announces shoulder mount HM70
 
Give JVC time. I'm sure they have a shoulder mount HM600-ish camera in the works.
The HM70 has very low resolution EVF and monitor.

Randy Johnson March 12th, 2013 06:11 PM

New Camera GY-HM70U
 
JVC Professional Features page
What do you think? Looks like JVC is competing with Sony's NEX 50. I like this one better with the exception of the missing XLRs

Chris Harding March 12th, 2013 06:27 PM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
Hi Randy

Wow I think not a competitor for the Sony EA-50 at all... I have always admired JVC and their gear is always professionally built and full of features but seriously this camera looks like it is made in a toy factory. I guess it will be OK for schools and such but that's about it! It's a closer rival to Sony's cheap shoulder mount MC2000 camera which also has just a single sensor and no XLR's

Chris

Randy Johnson March 12th, 2013 08:55 PM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
The Sony only has one sensor right? They left out XLR Sony left out ND plus its cheaper. I dont know I want to get a look at it for sure. Sony has interchangeable lenses but the JVCs lense opens all the way to 1.6. I think the Sony is more of a well rounded camera for all users where the JVC seems to be aimed at event work.

Chris Harding March 12th, 2013 09:17 PM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
Hi Randy

The MC2000 has the same size sensor as the JVC and yes just a single sensor...they are not very good in low light at all but they would be OK for outdoor events. The EA-50 is a completely different camera with a huge APSC DSLR sensor ...mine give me awesome low light performance and clean gain to 24db even with the stock lens at F3.5!! I would suspect that the JVC would need a lot of lighting despite the F1.6 lens indoors ...If you want a sub $2K camera then I doubt whether the JVC would be as good as the Panasonic AC-90 but I might be wrong. For $2,000 the AC-90 is an awful lot of camera and half the price of the EA-50.

What will the JVC sell for???

Chris

John Sirb March 12th, 2013 09:41 PM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
US 1995 list

Randy Johnson March 12th, 2013 10:51 PM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
I meant doesnt the NEX 50 have only one chip, at this point I think it all comes down to the quality of "the chip" If its a DSLR type I think this camera would have a lot to offer. It looks more comfortable than the NEX 50 and appears to be a real shoulder mount given it doesnt have inter changable lenses which is huge. On the other hand if the chip is just a CCD or a CMOS on steroids I agree that it is a better version of the Sony MC2000. BTW The low light specs look pretty good but we will have to wait till fall to see I guess or at least NAB.

Chris Harding March 13th, 2013 12:02 AM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
Hi Randy

It seems to be the same size roughly as the Panny HMC80 and about the same weight too so it just might suit your needs... The EA-50 is a lot lighter and suits my tired old body better!!
I'm really pleased to see that manufacturers are doing new event cameras again!! I moved from panny simply because they had no more shoulder mounts in the near future ... This gives event shooters a better option now. Are you looking seriously at this camera ? It really looks good value for what you get!!

It should give the Panasonic AC-90 a run for it's money too ...we will have to see what low light footage looks like at higher gains.

Chris

Zach Love March 13th, 2013 08:39 AM

Re: JVC announces shoulder mount HM70
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jody Arnott (Post 1783854)
If JVC brought out a camera like the HM600//650 with 50/60p and a shoulder mount, I think they'd have a winner.

Have you seen the HM700 series cameras? 720p60 shoulder mount, been selling since 2009.

I don't see the point of doing shoulder mount unless you can do inter-changable lenses too. The HM600 has higher resolution CMOS (1920x1080) vs the CCDs of the HM700 (1280x720), so possibly just put the CMOS of the HM600 into the HM700. Call it... HM800?

Is that what you're looking for?

If not, what are the HM700 series cameras lacking that the HM600 / 650 have? Do you want a shoulder mounted fixed lens camera?

Randy Johnson March 13th, 2013 10:25 AM

re: New Camera GY-HM70U
 
Well if the quality is right I am, I like almost everything about it except for XLRs which can be solved with a beachtek box. Now if your right and this just a normal old one chip camera that will shoot it down right there but if I can get pictures comparable to the NEX 50 I am in.I am hoping that the NEX 50 will set the mold for a new batch of affordable high quality film like cameras. I guess I will find out in May if this is one of them.

Steve Struthers March 13th, 2013 11:28 AM

Re: JVC announces shoulder mount HM70
 
The very low-res EVF and LCD display suggest to me that JVC simply ripped out some of the guts of the HM100/150 cameras and then plopped them into a big shoulder-mount body, slapped in a 1/2.3"
sensor and called it a professional camera.

It strikes me as a bit of an odd beast that doesn't really compete with any of the lower-end shoulder-mount options from Sony and Panasonic.

About the only thing it has over the Sony HXR-MC2000 is a larger image sensor (1/2.3" vs. 1/4"). And Panasonic's HMC80 would probably outperform the JVC even with its three 1/4" CMOS image sensors.

Cameras like the HM650/700 excepted, I've always tended to see JVC as somewhat of an also-ran in the video equipment business -sort of a 'day late and a dollar short' kind of thing.


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