What happens if you play DVX 100/a footage on a non-Panasonic? at DVinfo.net

Garrett Gibbons · December 20th, 2007, 04:42 PM

Okay, so I have some footage that won't import into Final Cut, despite my very best efforts to employ every possible combination of import settings. I can import any other tape in my collection without problems; it's just this tape.

I have reason to suspect that it was shot on a Panasonic DVX 100/a/b, but before I go out and rent one I am wondering if there's any way to know without taking that step.

I can watch the footage on my canon, I just have dropped frames/tape trouble messages within a second of trying to import it. On my canon the framerate is a bit choppy, but only barely.

Does this sound like it could possibly be from a Panasonic 24p solution? Would that fit what I'm seeing?

Thanks for any help!
Garrett

Daniel Epstein · December 21st, 2007, 07:32 AM

Canon and Panasonic don't always play nice together in DV. My DVX-100A tapes play without sound on my Canon XLH1. Both types of DV tapes play back fine on my Sony DSR-45. If you shot 24P Advanced you might be seeing the pull down which should be removed to see proper motion. If it is tape incompatibility then getting a Panasonic camcorder or a deck should solve your problem. Not all camcorders can playback other manufacturers tapes even though the format is supposed to be the same.

Matt Sawyers · December 21st, 2007, 09:26 AM

After shooting on the Panasonic DVX-100A, we tried capturing on a Canon GL2 and the audio would "skip" in & out (mostly out). We ended up using a cheap Panasonic to read the tape & capture into FCP. That's my experience.

Matt Champagne · December 21st, 2007, 09:38 AM

That is sort of unusual, because I shot with a DVX100a and captured with a cheap Canon Optura several years ago, and I had no issues whatsoever. Though honestly, I may have been shooting 30i...I can't remember exactly.

Matt Sawyers · December 21st, 2007, 09:45 AM

I beginning to wonder if it has to do with the encoding of the 3CCD cameras, maybe going from a 3CCD to a 1CCD works?

Garrett Gibbons · December 21st, 2007, 10:13 PM

Has anyone for sure shot Pana 24p footage and then looked at it from a Canon/JVC/Sony? I guess that would answer my question. I'm just trying to figure out why FCP won't import this footage.

No audio skipping when I play it back on the GL2, by the way. Any ideas??

December 20th, 2007, 04:42 PM	#1
Garrett Gibbons New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 24	What happens if you play DVX 100/a footage on a non-Panasonic? Okay, so I have some footage that won't import into Final Cut, despite my very best efforts to employ every possible combination of import settings. I can import any other tape in my collection without problems; it's just this tape. I have reason to suspect that it was shot on a Panasonic DVX 100/a/b, but before I go out and rent one I am wondering if there's any way to know without taking that step. I can watch the footage on my canon, I just have dropped frames/tape trouble messages within a second of trying to import it. On my canon the framerate is a bit choppy, but only barely. Does this sound like it could possibly be from a Panasonic 24p solution? Would that fit what I'm seeing? Thanks for any help! Garrett

December 21st, 2007, 09:26 AM	#3
Matt Sawyers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria , Texas Posts: 123	After shooting on the Panasonic DVX-100A, we tried capturing on a Canon GL2 and the audio would "skip" in & out (mostly out). We ended up using a cheap Panasonic to read the tape & capture into FCP. That's my experience. __________________ MSProductions - Victoria, TX & Waco, TX www.MattSawyers.com

December 21st, 2007, 09:38 AM	#4
Matt Champagne Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Iberia, LA Posts: 229	That is sort of unusual, because I shot with a DVX100a and captured with a cheap Canon Optura several years ago, and I had no issues whatsoever. Though honestly, I may have been shooting 30i...I can't remember exactly. __________________ Filmmaking Tips from Cinema Advanced Horror Film Reviews at Killerfilm

December 21st, 2007, 09:45 AM	#5
Matt Sawyers Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria , Texas Posts: 123	I beginning to wonder if it has to do with the encoding of the 3CCD cameras, maybe going from a 3CCD to a 1CCD works? __________________ MSProductions - Victoria, TX & Waco, TX www.MattSawyers.com

December 21st, 2007, 07:32 AM	#2
Daniel Epstein Trustee Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,267	Canon and Panasonic don't always play nice together in DV. My DVX-100A tapes play without sound on my Canon XLH1. Both types of DV tapes play back fine on my Sony DSR-45. If you shot 24P Advanced you might be seeing the pull down which should be removed to see proper motion. If it is tape incompatibility then getting a Panasonic camcorder or a deck should solve your problem. Not all camcorders can playback other manufacturers tapes even though the format is supposed to be the same.

December 21st, 2007, 10:13 PM	#6
Garrett Gibbons New Boot Join Date: May 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 24	Has anyone for sure shot Pana 24p footage and then looked at it from a Canon/JVC/Sony? I guess that would answer my question. I'm just trying to figure out why FCP won't import this footage. No audio skipping when I play it back on the GL2, by the way. Any ideas??