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Old January 1st, 2004, 10:15 AM   #1
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Welcome to the Long, Very Long Black Line

Howdy from Texas,

We get soooo many posts about DV tape, we decided to dump 'em all into a special forum dedicated specifically to the topic of "tape" which, as far as I know, is the first of its kind anywhere online. The other big message boards for digital video won't give you this kind of service, but we aim to please, baby! There's a lot to read in here, so before you pop your tape question, try reading through these threads, and I'll bet you'll find your answer. Kudos to Ken (or blame, whichever you deem appropriate) for the forum title. At least there's no Red Tape here! Hope this helps!
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Old March 18th, 2004, 12:21 AM   #2
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When I read the description of this forum it sounded like it was for all video formats. When I read this topic it sounds like it's strictly DV.
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Old March 18th, 2004, 12:58 AM   #3
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I'm sure other tape type posts are welcome, it's that miniDV tape is the most popular. That is why one mainly see posts about miniDV. After all, the site is called, DVinfo. :-))
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Old March 18th, 2004, 01:03 AM   #4
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The absence of any other video format by name in the welcome message combined with the various forums' penchant for staying on topic may be having a chilling affect.
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Old March 18th, 2004, 02:05 AM   #5
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You might be correct. But in life, one must take chances. :-))

What type of tape do you want to discuss? (Super8 is film.)
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Old March 18th, 2004, 06:25 AM   #6
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Alessandro, this community is, after all, named DV Info. Consequently the vast majority of it's member are DV oriented. We do not wish to exclude discussion of other formats, in the appropriate forums. Discussions within the threads need to stay on topic and discuss new material. If the discussions strays too far from the original posters question or if no new material is being added to the discussion, the Wrangler (moderator) may take action as he deems appropriate. If you have questions regarding any of this, or additional questions, be sure to review the DV Info FAQ.
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Old March 18th, 2004, 10:08 AM   #7
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All I'm saying is that when I read the forum description for this forum it seems to welcome the discussion of other tape formats, but when I read this topic, which appears to be the introduction to this forum, it feels like it's primarily about DV.
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Old May 5th, 2005, 05:48 PM   #8
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Diamonds are very hard to find in the rough of The Long Black Line.

The whole 'I like Fujis but my Granny wears Pannys' conviction is getting beneath us. I'm no angel in this respect - don't get me wrong - I just worry that anyone searching will be globally positioned in miles of shite at no particular point, by search results, depending how they phrase their search and also depending on what's been said lately which is rarely original.

Revelations have to be swallowed up within a week, never readily accessible again - if true revelations exist.

Perhaps you could enumerate some Mini DV stock wisdom in the introduction Chris: if all you're looking to know is A, B, C then D, E, F is often said and if all you're going to reveal is G, H, I.. then consider that this has been said many times before!
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Old August 28th, 2005, 08:09 PM   #9
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Could everyone stop the one upmanship and sermantics game. Just concentrate on DV tapes as the forum name, DV i Community title implies.Life is way too short for endless waffle.
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Old August 28th, 2005, 08:20 PM   #10
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Could everyone stop the one upmanship and sermantics game. Just concentrate on DV tapes as the forum name, DV i Community title implies.Life is way too short for endless waffle.
May, June, July, August,

Did you realize that your coment comes 3 months and 3 weeks after the previous comment? I think the stuff you are complaining, if it ever even existed, stopped months ago, no?
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Old August 29th, 2005, 01:19 AM   #11
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Thats ok, time has no meaning when afflicted with insomnia.Now what month and year did you say we are in?
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Old October 8th, 2005, 11:24 PM   #12
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Jeez, Joe. I wonder if we're related?
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Old April 25th, 2006, 10:16 PM   #13
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DV Tape FAQ

Well, its a shameless, but hopefully on topic plug- even if it is 2+ years late.

I have a DV Tape FAQ on my site:

http://www.zenera.com/dvtape.html

It answers a lot of questions about tape without getting too technical.

While it is written about MiniDV tape, a lot of the same stuff applies to DVCPRO, DVCAM and other tapes. Just remember- I wasn't writing about those.

I just reformatted it, and I hope to clean up the text and add some more technical information in the coming months. Don't hold your breath on that, but it is on my mind.

I hope you find it useful.
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Old August 25th, 2006, 03:12 PM   #14
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I have a DV Tape FAQ on my site:

http://www.zenera.com/dvtape.html

I hope you find it useful.
I think it's a great idea. I would add to this DV/DVCAM/DVCPro entry:

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DVCAM and DVCPRO both run their tapes faster with more robust error correction than DV. DVCAM runs at 28.193mm/sec. Unlike my experience with DV SP and LP mode, these formats definitely reduce dropouts and extend shelf life compared to DV SP mode.
this extra info:

DVCAM also provides Locked Audio (frame equivalent to image), better stock and better lubricant.

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Old August 25th, 2006, 03:35 PM   #15
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I think it's a great idea. I would add to this DV/DVCAM/DVCPro entry:

DVCAM also provides Locked Audio (frame equivalent to image), better stock and better lubricant.
Good points Loren, and you see what I mean when I wrote I wasn't writing about DVCPRO/DVCAM etc. ::grin::

I'll probably add that in though.
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