RIP Magnetic Tape. - Page 4 at

Go Back   DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > The Long Black Line

The Long Black Line
Tape, tape and more tape; and decks; HDV, DV, VHS and more.

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 13th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #46
Inner Circle
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 8,493
Re: RIP Magnetic Tape.

Originally Posted by Mikel Arturo View Post
I bet for Canon HF-G30 versus external recorder (and don't forget that external recorder needs external power, external batery or something similar!!!!!; another thing that can go wrong working).
I bet
If bet I would have had a sony hvr-dr60 a few years ago when I just got my brandnew canon xh-a1, I wouldn't have lost 1 full hour of wedding footage due to over a 100 dropouts on a brand-new tape and a camera that never gave any type of warning. When I got my sony hvr-dr60 just after that to prevent that kind of disaster again it had been the best investment I made. With one battery I could film 4,5 hours continuously and still have battery power left and the recorder performed flawless in about 4 years. I sold the camera and recorder a few months ago but if it wasn't for it's poor low light performance I certainly would not have gotten rid of that combination.
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 21st, 2013, 05:17 AM   #47
Inner Circle
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Belfast, UK
Posts: 4,063
Re: RIP Magnetic Tape.

An aside, since this is audio tape; BBC News - Press rewind: The cassette tape returns

I'm not sure if the tape retro will apply to imaging, since film seems to have the retro corner.
Brian Drysdale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 1st, 2013, 09:40 PM   #48
Major Player
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 506
Re: RIP Magnetic Tape.

A few months ago I started the process of migrating away from tape when I bought a Canon XA10 and incorporated it into my camera package for wedding and event videography, along side my venerable pair of Sony V1U HDV cameras.

Still somewhat leery of using memory media every shoot I have had the XA10 in the mode where dual slot SD's are both recording simultaneously. However I have been using Canon approved media and have not ever had a single problem with a SD card.

This week I got in my first Atomos Ninja to use with the Sony V1U. After a quick test shooting with it and then editing on our Sony Vegas Pro 11 system I ordered a second one for the second V1.

I will still simultaneously record to tape as a safety, at least for a awhile!
D.J. Ammons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 1st, 2013, 10:59 PM   #49
Major Player
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kanto Plain (関東平野), Japan
Posts: 682
Re: RIP Magnetic Tape.

I have 3 tape-based video cameras and have owned the XF305 for six months now. I bought the Focus FS-CF Pro to make sure I could use my older cameras in case my laptop firewire quit working or I replaced it with one without firewire, as I've noticed they are getting scarce.

I don't mind the capture process. If I have a large number of tapes to capture, I use multiple laptops where possible.
My workflow with the XF305 is currently not saving me any time when it comes to handling the footage.

I can't just pop in a fresh tape once the media is full. In the field, I have to copy the CF cards to my Nexto portable HDD storage device, erase the cards and reinstall them in the camera. Once I get access to a laptop, I transfer the files off the Nexto to a portable HDD as an archive copy, then open the Canon XF Utility program and copy the files yet again (using the EXPORT AS .MXF files function) and these files are what I use for editing. In the future, I know I'll need to have a better archival scheme, such as "off-site" and more reliable media.

With tape, I slap a label on it, stuff a fresh one in the camera and ready to shoot. After capture, the tape goes in a safe place as my archive.

Bottom line is that my experience so far with a tapeless workflow is that it didn't make anything easier and in fact I find whenever I'm about to reformat one of my CF cards there's a bit of a pucker factor as I hope I didn't mix things up and end up erasing the only existing copy.
Mark Watson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2013, 12:47 PM   #50
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Angelo Texas
Posts: 1,505
Re: RIP Magnetic Tape.

You avoid that kind of mixup by having enough extra CF cards on hand. When you reach about 75% capacity on one (I avoid filling up media cards) simply remove it (after stopping the recording), pop in a fresh one and "roll on".

Using something like the Pelican media cases place unrecorded media cards in with brand label facing up, already recorded go in face down. You can have the media cards permanently numbered (I'd use a Sharpie marker) and an assistant can "log" the card number and what's on it in a small notebook).

I would never erase/reformat a used card on location.

I "archive" original files on a pair of 2TB external hard drives with a third standing by in case one of the pair exhibits the slightest indication of a problem.
Bruce Foreman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 3rd, 2013, 04:18 PM   #51
Major Player
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 506
Re: RIP Magnetic Tape.

I also make sure I have plenty of media to record on so that is not a problem. I also import the footage to two different hard drives in case one of the hard drives fails.

Now that Carbonite has the home premier plan that automatically backs up video files on the main hard drive and external hard drives that is going to be my next step for peace of mind.
D.J. Ammons is offline   Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

Omega Broadcast
(512) 251-7778
Austin, TX

(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

(800) 238-8480
Glendale, CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The Tools of DV and HD Production > The Long Black Line

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:21 AM.

DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2015 The Digital Video Information Network