1989 VHS-C, some loss data. Anyway to recover? at DVinfo.net

Dave Morgan · June 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM

I have a VHS-C from 1989, some of the video was playable and looks fine, so I was able to transfer that. However parts of it are ONLY audio, with a Blue screen.

I have tried 2 different players. Are there more professional players out there that could possibly playback and recover what is there?

R Geoff Baker · June 22nd, 2012, 07:01 PM

VHS-C is simply a VHS tape in a compact shell -- the recording is in everyway a VHS recording. I used to have an adapter shell you could place the VHS-C tape in, then place the shell in any VHS player ...

So yes, there are better VHS players. Typically they have wider heads and can't read an EP/SLP recording, they are SP only. They usually have a wider tracking range, and maybe better abilities to lock to off-speed tapes. Perhaps a TBC built in.

So if you have a conversion shell, take the tape & shell to a production house with VHS capability. If you don't have the shell, you may have to call around to find a facility that does -- or one that has a high-end deck that can take the VHS-C shell directly.

Cheers,
GB

Dave Barnes · June 22nd, 2012, 08:56 PM

You might look for someone with one of the famous JVC BR-S22DXU series decks... these were serious PRO SVHS broadcast decks (that can playback vhs SP only) AND had a dual loading mechanism to handle VHS or S-VHS-C tapes....without any adapter... What you probably need is the 525-DXU model which has variable tracking for slow motion....

Bob Hart · June 26th, 2012, 08:51 AM

You may find that an even older VHS player with VHS-C adaptor may "hang on" past the point where the newer players drop out to a blue screen, otherwise its the excellent JVC VHS/SVHS/DV decks which may be your saviour. Model HR-DVS1 is one such. You may be better off with the deck capturing via the <- dub arrangement but taking the signal to your computer via firewire rather than tyrying to dub to the DV deck on this dual recorder.

Warren Kawamoto · June 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM

Try looking for an older JVC professional deck with a built in time base corrector.

Jeff Dean · July 30th, 2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Geoff Baker

VHS-C is simply a VHS tape in a compact shell -- the recording is in everyway a VHS recording. I used to have an adapter shell you could place the VHS-C tape in, then place the shell in any VHS player ...

So yes, there are better VHS players. Typically they have wider heads and can't read an EP/SLP recording, they are SP only. They usually have a wider tracking range, and maybe better abilities to lock to off-speed tapes. Perhaps a TBC built in.

So if you have a conversion shell, take the tape & shell to a production house with VHS capability. If you don't have the shell, you may have to call around to find a facility that does -- or one that has a high-end deck that can take the VHS-C shell directly.

Cheers,
GB

The adapter shell that you place in the VHSC tape in is what I have used. But I noticed on a couple of the tapes I lost tracking at the end and ended up with some terrible tracking lines (snow) through the video.
Is that because of the adapter or I suspect, because something is wrong with the tracking on the tapes?

June 22nd, 2012, 03:41 PM	#1
Dave Morgan Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 293	1989 VHS-C, some loss data. Anyway to recover? I have a VHS-C from 1989, some of the video was playable and looks fine, so I was able to transfer that. However parts of it are ONLY audio, with a Blue screen. I have tried 2 different players. Are there more professional players out there that could possibly playback and recover what is there?

June 22nd, 2012, 07:01 PM	#2
R Geoff Baker Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 471	Re: 1989 VHS-C, some loss data. Anyway to recover? VHS-C is simply a VHS tape in a compact shell -- the recording is in everyway a VHS recording. I used to have an adapter shell you could place the VHS-C tape in, then place the shell in any VHS player ... So yes, there are better VHS players. Typically they have wider heads and can't read an EP/SLP recording, they are SP only. They usually have a wider tracking range, and maybe better abilities to lock to off-speed tapes. Perhaps a TBC built in. So if you have a conversion shell, take the tape & shell to a production house with VHS capability. If you don't have the shell, you may have to call around to find a facility that does -- or one that has a high-end deck that can take the VHS-C shell directly. Cheers, GB

June 22nd, 2012, 08:56 PM	#3
Dave Barnes Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 66	Re: 1989 VHS-C, some loss data. Anyway to recover? You might look for someone with one of the famous JVC BR-S22DXU series decks... these were serious PRO SVHS broadcast decks (that can playback vhs SP only) AND had a dual loading mechanism to handle VHS or S-VHS-C tapes....without any adapter... What you probably need is the 525-DXU model which has variable tracking for slow motion.... __________________ Canon XL-H1A / Canon XH-A1S / Still shooting some tape / Mac Pro 2013 / Final Cut Pro X

June 26th, 2012, 08:51 AM	#4
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Re: 1989 VHS-C, some loss data. Anyway to recover? You may find that an even older VHS player with VHS-C adaptor may "hang on" past the point where the newer players drop out to a blue screen, otherwise its the excellent JVC VHS/SVHS/DV decks which may be your saviour. Model HR-DVS1 is one such. You may be better off with the deck capturing via the <- dub arrangement but taking the signal to your computer via firewire rather than tyrying to dub to the DV deck on this dual recorder.

June 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM	#5
Warren Kawamoto Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 1,435	Re: 1989 VHS-C, some loss data. Anyway to recover? Try looking for an older JVC professional deck with a built in time base corrector.