DV Tape for XL1 or XL1S

Dean Sensui · December 16th, 2002, 10:24 PM

I shoot nothing but Fuji.

Went through dozens of tapes without a problem. So far. Knock on wood.

Dean Sensui
Base Two Productions

Michel Brewer · December 16th, 2002, 11:25 PM

I use panasonic in my Xl1 sony excellence or dvcam in my pd100a/pd150 (pd150 when they loan it to me) so far no problems, the biggest thing seems to be find one and stick with it...

michel

Guy Pringle · December 21st, 2002, 05:32 PM

I use Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ's for shoots in my XL1S and I keep my History Reel on a Panasonic AY-DVM63MQ.

However, I have now, for the second time experienced a problem. When I went to a pro post-production facility to record v/o and do the final mix, they only had Sony DVCAM VTR's (didn't get the model #). So my edit was recorded onto my MQ in a Sony deck. Plays back fine in the Sony deck but when I try to play it back from my camera (don't have my own VTR) there is no audio and the picture does like a strobe effect. (I'll have to try to find the right forum for this problem).

The first time I had a similar problem, they made me a copy on a Sony tape and it played back fine through my XL1S.

Guess that throws a spanner in the works. Still, the PQ's (shot about 15 hours on them) work great.

Bob Safay · December 22nd, 2002, 06:46 AM

I only use FUJI ME. Been using it for over two years and never a problem. I used it from cold temps. to the Amazon. Low humidity to 100% humidity. Never had a problem or a jam. Bob Safay

Frank Granovski · December 22nd, 2002, 07:15 AM

I too use Fuji. Here's a bit about miniDV tape.

http://www.dvfreak.com/tape.htm

Takeshi Fukushima · December 23rd, 2002, 10:33 AM

I had a bunch of used tapes my friend gave me. thought I'd use it for practice. figured since its a digital signal, it should overwrite it clean, and there should be no problem. There seems to be dropoffs every now and then, and i can't capture right. can anybody fill me in on details about this?
Takeshi

BobKloss · January 6th, 2003, 04:01 PM

Hi,

I've owned two XL1S's so far. The first one I shoot and edited on three full Sony 60 tapes withou a hitch. I purchased a second XL1S the other day and a five pack of Panasonic 90 LP. The first tape I used on my new camera kept stopping on rewind and displaying the message "remove tape". I opened the door to find the tape not sinching up. So I manualy sinched up the tape and tried again. This time it got caught on something inside and I had to break the tape to remove the cartridge. I wrote it off as a fluke untill I had the same problem again a second and finaly a third time before giving up. I went back to one of my Sony tapes and havn't had a problem since. I have to admit I didn't exspect to see so many people posting GOOD luck with their panasonic tapes and their is another post about someone else complaining about it being the XL1S's fault posting the heading, "back to canon for the second time".

Rajesh Puttaswamaiah · January 23rd, 2003, 01:27 AM

I had to pay $600SD to get my XL1s head changed after switching to a Panasonic from Sony. I had barely shot around 10 hours till then.
I too strongly believe to stick to one brand as it was a hell of a experience to get my camera repaired.

Frank Granovski · January 23rd, 2003, 01:43 AM

I only use FUJI (for about 4 years now). And I've never yet had any problems with FUJI. In fact, I haven't had to clean my heads since I started using FUJI.

Christopher Hughes · January 24th, 2003, 01:41 PM

I use SONY Premium (non chip), cos I just got in the habbit from using them with Hi-8 format for years, an being in a Uni sponsored by Sony. Plus they have had special offers for Sony, so I have stuck with them the whole time. Never had any problems!

But is there much difference with the Panasonic ones? Just seems Panasonic and Fuji are the top answers. You guys know something I dont? or is Panasonic just cheaper in the USA?

Christopher Hughes · January 24th, 2003, 01:44 PM

Hey MODs can I not have a cooler title than "NEW BOOT" ????. Just soemthing a bit more classy!!!... :)

Jeff Donald · January 24th, 2003, 02:18 PM

Your a new boot until you have 25 posts if I remember correctly. The title goes with our Texan, western theme, hence wranglers etc.

Jeff

Christopher Hughes · January 24th, 2003, 02:25 PM

Well Yee Haw Cowboys! I can see the Western theme now.... just like being back in Idaho when I lived there for a couple of years!

So how many posts to become a Sheriff??? hahaha

Derrick Begin · January 24th, 2003, 02:42 PM

Panasonic ala like the above people mentioned.

I recommend not ever taping LP. A friend of mine showed me the tape from his XL1S and the audio/video screwed up/staired all over what a client paid $$$$ for. It was a one shot deal and a repetative client. LP doesn't pay...

My two copper heads...

Cheers!

Derrick

Christopher Hughes · January 24th, 2003, 03:06 PM

I never touch LP even with a 10ft barge pole!. I must be mad or like torture with money costs, but i never even use the same tape twice. Just have a "test" tape that I use if I need to have a tape just to mess around with, where i dont care about the quality. But even then I never use LP with that. I had a bad experience a long time ago and never ever used LP since. The quality was bad, and maybe running slower makes the tape more prone to heat or more friction or something (im not a techno physicist know it all) so just never use LP.

If you get paid for your work, there no probs with tape money. But if you dont and its a hobby, well tapes are about $5 (if my USD estimates correct) here so just do without a six-pack for a day Or what I do and buy slight out-of-date food or On-Specials then you have tape money. ;)

December 16th, 2002, 11:25 PM	#47
Michel Brewer Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ventura California Posts: 179	tape? I use panasonic in my Xl1 sony excellence or dvcam in my pd100a/pd150 (pd150 when they loan it to me) so far no problems, the biggest thing seems to be find one and stick with it... michel

December 21st, 2002, 05:32 PM	#48
Guy Pringle Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 82	I use Panasonic AY-DVM63PQ's for shoots in my XL1S and I keep my History Reel on a Panasonic AY-DVM63MQ. However, I have now, for the second time experienced a problem. When I went to a pro post-production facility to record v/o and do the final mix, they only had Sony DVCAM VTR's (didn't get the model #). So my edit was recorded onto my MQ in a Sony deck. Plays back fine in the Sony deck but when I try to play it back from my camera (don't have my own VTR) there is no audio and the picture does like a strobe effect. (I'll have to try to find the right forum for this problem). The first time I had a similar problem, they made me a copy on a Sony tape and it played back fine through my XL1S. Guess that throws a spanner in the works. Still, the PQ's (shot about 15 hours on them) work great. __________________ Amacitia Reddit Honores (Friendship Brings Honour) Guy Pringle Silver Reflections guypringle@yahoo.com +27(0)83 256 8566

December 23rd, 2002, 10:33 AM	#51
Takeshi Fukushima Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 86	used tapes. don't be cheap. I had a bunch of used tapes my friend gave me. thought I'd use it for practice. figured since its a digital signal, it should overwrite it clean, and there should be no problem. There seems to be dropoffs every now and then, and i can't capture right. can anybody fill me in on details about this? Takeshi

January 23rd, 2003, 01:27 AM	#53
Rajesh Puttaswamaiah New Boot Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bangalore,India Posts: 7	I had to pay $600SD to get my XL1s head changed after switching to a Panasonic from Sony. I had barely shot around 10 hours till then. I too strongly believe to stick to one brand as it was a hell of a experience to get my camera repaired. __________________ Rajesh BP ----------------------------------------- "Explore the wonders of Nature"

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December 16th, 2002, 10:24 PM	#46
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	I shoot nothing but Fuji. Went through dozens of tapes without a problem. So far. Knock on wood. Dean Sensui Base Two Productions

December 22nd, 2002, 06:46 AM	#49
Bob Safay Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,557	I only use FUJI ME. Been using it for over two years and never a problem. I used it from cold temps. to the Amazon. Low humidity to 100% humidity. Never had a problem or a jam. Bob Safay

December 22nd, 2002, 07:15 AM	#50
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I too use Fuji. Here's a bit about miniDV tape. http://www.dvfreak.com/tape.htm

January 6th, 2003, 04:01 PM	#52
BobKloss New Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: us Posts: 11	Hi, I've owned two XL1S's so far. The first one I shoot and edited on three full Sony 60 tapes withou a hitch. I purchased a second XL1S the other day and a five pack of Panasonic 90 LP. The first tape I used on my new camera kept stopping on rewind and displaying the message "remove tape". I opened the door to find the tape not sinching up. So I manualy sinched up the tape and tried again. This time it got caught on something inside and I had to break the tape to remove the cartridge. I wrote it off as a fluke untill I had the same problem again a second and finaly a third time before giving up. I went back to one of my Sony tapes and havn't had a problem since. I have to admit I didn't exspect to see so many people posting GOOD luck with their panasonic tapes and their is another post about someone else complaining about it being the XL1S's fault posting the heading, "back to canon for the second time".

January 23rd, 2003, 01:43 AM	#54
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	I only use FUJI (for about 4 years now). And I've never yet had any problems with FUJI. In fact, I haven't had to clean my heads since I started using FUJI.

January 24th, 2003, 01:41 PM	#55
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	I use SONY Premium (non chip), cos I just got in the habbit from using them with Hi-8 format for years, an being in a Uni sponsored by Sony. Plus they have had special offers for Sony, so I have stuck with them the whole time. Never had any problems! But is there much difference with the Panasonic ones? Just seems Panasonic and Fuji are the top answers. You guys know something I dont? or is Panasonic just cheaper in the USA?

January 24th, 2003, 01:44 PM	#56
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	Hey MODs can I not have a cooler title than "NEW BOOT" ????. Just soemthing a bit more classy!!!... :)

January 24th, 2003, 02:18 PM	#57
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Your a new boot until you have 25 posts if I remember correctly. The title goes with our Texan, western theme, hence wranglers etc. Jeff

January 24th, 2003, 02:25 PM	#58
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	Well Yee Haw Cowboys! I can see the Western theme now.... just like being back in Idaho when I lived there for a couple of years! So how many posts to become a Sheriff??? hahaha

January 24th, 2003, 02:42 PM	#59
Derrick Begin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 329	Panasonic ala like the above people mentioned. I recommend not ever taping LP. A friend of mine showed me the tape from his XL1S and the audio/video screwed up/staired all over what a client paid $$$$ for. It was a one shot deal and a repetative client. LP doesn't pay... My two copper heads... Cheers! Derrick

January 24th, 2003, 03:06 PM	#60
Christopher Hughes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunderland, England (y Merida, Mexico) Posts: 269	I never touch LP even with a 10ft barge pole!. I must be mad or like torture with money costs, but i never even use the same tape twice. Just have a "test" tape that I use if I need to have a tape just to mess around with, where i dont care about the quality. But even then I never use LP with that. I had a bad experience a long time ago and never ever used LP since. The quality was bad, and maybe running slower makes the tape more prone to heat or more friction or something (im not a techno physicist know it all) so just never use LP. If you get paid for your work, there no probs with tape money. But if you dont and its a hobby, well tapes are about $5 (if my USD estimates correct) here so just do without a six-pack for a day Or what I do and buy slight out-of-date food or On-Specials then you have tape money. ;)