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Old January 17th, 2006, 05:18 PM   #46
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sweet

This camera is looking sweeter by the day. That WA lens suggests that Sanyo had more than home movies in mind with this camera. Well, the external mic jack was the first sign that this is being aimed at the pro market. I predict Panasonic will be next out of the block with an HD version of the AV100, called the HD100? I'll bet anything on that.
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Old January 18th, 2006, 11:35 PM   #47
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This camera is incredible. I just played the clip back on my G4 Powerbook using Flip4Mac through Quicktime and it played fine (only a 1.25 ghz processor). This thing will be an absolute boon to doc filmmakers...imagine the intimacy, the access! OK, I'll settle down. Is it too late to return my HVX200? Sanyo makes some quality products, BTW. I have always used their cell phones and they consistently win JD Power for best cell phone manufacturer. Was it someone on this board that mentioned steve jobs and the CEO of Sanyo were friends? Interesting...so when can we get one?

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Old January 18th, 2006, 11:51 PM   #48
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so when can we get one?
Now! On E-Bay for $1300+ (shipped from Japan) or pre-order from Amazon for $799...
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:09 AM   #49
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I'm buying one now! How much for the SD card?
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:57 AM   #50
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This looks pretty damn cool but the limitations of SD cards make the recording time kinda sucky:

"To give you an idea what you can record on a 2GB SD, in the best setting (HD-SHQ) you can record 28 minutes and 45 seconds"

I guess it's not a big deal though.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 09:01 AM   #51
 
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This looks pretty damn cool but the limitations of SD cards make the recording time kinda sucky:

"To give you an idea what you can record on a 2GB SD, in the best setting (HD-SHQ) you can record 28 minutes and 45 seconds"

I guess it's not a big deal though.
That's still 18 minutes more than you can record with 2 P2 cards which cost more than a handful of Sanyo cams. (Substantially different format, but the point is that folks seem to be fine with recording 8 minutes at a time)
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Old January 19th, 2006, 09:27 AM   #52
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28min is enough for me..i would probaly use laptop directly to camera casue it supports usb 2.0

this is nice clip of hdr-a1 upscale to 1920x1080

http://videopage.net/morita/Hi_Vision/8M_fujiwara.wmv
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Old January 19th, 2006, 10:13 AM   #53
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ok - got it to play ! oh man , if you had told me a month ago my next camcorder would be a Sanyo , I'd have laughed. Not laughing now. The cards are no issue to me considering they're good for about 50,000 offloads. I rarely shoot more than an hour at a time anyway. I'd start with one 4g and one 2g. If only Jean Cocteau was alive today , he'd be a happy man. Kurth
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Old January 19th, 2006, 12:47 PM   #54
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28min is enough for me..i would probaly use laptop directly to camera casue it supports usb 2.0

this is nice clip of hdr-a1 upscale to 1920x1080

http://videopage.net/morita/Hi_Vision/8M_fujiwara.wmv
Are you kidding? I just downloaded and watched the whole thing. I just want to confirm this: that was shot with the new 720P Sanyo camcorder? The one that's going to retail for $799 in the US?
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Old January 19th, 2006, 02:00 PM   #55
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$10 says that this little cam is the holy grail for us indies.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 02:01 PM   #56
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I think that particular shot was taken with the sony A1 CMOS HDV camcorder.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 03:08 PM   #57
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Thanks Bob you just saved me from downloading that monster ~700MB yikes !


Please note to all that clip is the Sony A1 HDV NOT the Sanyo

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Old January 19th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #58
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It definetly does seem like a fairly good setup for indies to use depending on the level of manual control. But Like I said before some serious potential for major modifications to this little cam for serious indie movie making.

Unlike the Bayonet mount for the FX1, in the case of a major screwup in trying to do some werid modifications that involve major dissassembly, your only out 800 dollars rather than several thousand.

If this thing delievers half decent quality then it should be a hit.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 09:58 PM   #59
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Guys have a look at the following threads, lots of information:

Panasonic HD prototypes:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58564

Samsung HD h264 camera with 17-19Mb/s.
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58261

Ambarella full h264 chip, note the extreme low datarate needed for p60 and the quoted:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=58391

The JVC Camera, one article says it will do 1080 as well (but could be just an error) but, it seems, that it will still sue HDV:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52319

Other threads on the Sanyo:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=57556
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=57340

Please note, that the Samsung is said to have uncompressed HDMI output, around 17-19Mb/s.

Have a look for the comparison of transcode performance between Mpeg2, WMV, and h264 Mpeg4.

H264 (I don't know about Mpeg4) has the ability to mask blocking.
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Old January 19th, 2006, 10:01 PM   #60
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like i said before, it's the windows media format, however, it's been encoded at an insanely high bitrate, something like 8 mbps, which is a comparable bitrate to the mpeg2 used for dvd's.
Is it available in native mpeg4, thats only 6 or 9Mb/s, would get rid of any artifacts and is nearly the same datarate?

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How about giving this camera its own category? There's a lot of us who would use this camera as our PRIMARY one for the extreme sports we're involved in. (In my case, I shoot backpacking videos and always need the lightest tool available.) Instead of dissing it as a toy or as falling beneath some unstated spec that nobody can define, let's give it all the support we can muster.
Yes, an "Shooters Preferred Second Camera (second, backup, special purpose and stunt cameras)" forum would be good, as a general place for these cameras, but what about "Solid State/Hard Drive mpeg4/h264 cameras", instead?
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