Sanyo HD1 - New Samples

[Robert Batta]

and the recorded video same the DV quality ?

[Victor Ngai]

dv is 720*480 (ntsc), 720*576 (pal), compress rate 1/5.

[Robert Batta]

ok the size smaller , but my question is the "real look" quality

[Dimitri Sorokin]

Here are some samples I did with my HD1:

Moscow, 07.30.2006, Gorky park, cloudy:
Attraction 1 - 12Mb, 16:09
Attraction 2 - 13Mb, 17:37
Attraction 3 - 5Mb, 17:40
Locomotive - 12Mb, 19:00
Ship - 11Mb, 19:07
Trampoline - 14Mb, 19:17

[Stuart Walden]

Hi,

A framegrab from a short film of a tropical butterfly taken at the "Plantasia" in Swansea S.Wales.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0cln9i

A couple of things to note here :-

1. HD video is now of sufficient resolution to pull a decent still picture from. Thereby allowing you to video a scene and then pick the best stills a la multi shot / bracket shooting facilities on still cameras . Very useful if the subject is moving around(!)

2. There has been some of negative press about the form factor of this camera. However for someone with weak fingers/hands/arms - eg from Arthritis, the weight combined with the angled pistol grip holding position is ideal.

Rgds.

[Ian Sturtivant]

I have downloaded Dimitri's Gorky Park samples but they don't play very well on my PC. I'm sure they would, if I had the right viewer, or codec, installed. Does anybody have any suggestions, please?

[Dimitri Sorokin]

Originally Posted by Ian Sturtivant

I have downloaded Dimitri's Gorky Park samples but they don't play very well on my PC. I'm sure they would, if I had the right viewer, or codec, installed. Does anybody have any suggestions, please?

Try VLC player: http://www.videolan.org/

[Ian Sturtivant]

Ah, thanks very much. :) That is so much better. These are all handheld shots, Dimitri? No tripods?

EDIT: That Sendspace makes a refreshing change after some of the awful storage/download sites I have had to download from recently. :)

[Dimitri Sorokin]

Originally Posted by Ian Sturtivant

Ah, thanks very much. :) That is so much better. These are all handheld shots, Dimitri? No tripods?

without tripod with the following settings:

Image stabiliser: OFF
White balance: cloudy
Sensitivity: ISO50 OR ISO100
Focus: manual
Exposure mode: Aperture priority - 3.5

[Ian Sturtivant]

Focus - manual? Wow, you must have fast fingers. I see you have image stabiliser "off". How does it affaect the quality of the picture if you have it turned "on"?

[Dimitri Sorokin]

Originally Posted by Ian Sturtivant

Focus - manual? Wow, you must have fast fingers. I see you have image stabiliser "off". How does it affaect the quality of the picture if you have it turned "on"?

I tried to film with stabiliser on - the picture seems to be unsharp.

[Ian Sturtivant]

I see, thanks. I just can't make my mind up about this camcorder. :o

[Frank Hool]

Originally Posted by Carlos Serrano

The file:
http://files.filefront.com/HD1Footag.../fileinfo.html

Sample is nice but very tricky to rate because of lack of camera movement, which is keyfactor considering mpeg-4 compression

[Steve Nunez]

While I do see increased resolution- the quality of samples I've seen posted seem "lacking" in some way. I just don't see the absolute resolution so to speak- details seem lost, and the colors seem "boosted" too much. The video almost looks like upscaled DV. I do think the HD1 is a step in the right direction and it has "its" place in videography but I think it's going to be awhile before it's near current HDV quality.
For it's pricepoint it isn't a bad camera especially when "web" video is your target- but I think just about anyone who has used a HDV camcorder would find it's lack of fine detail and general video quality lacking.
I'd like to get one sometime but more of a "webcamera" for web posts and webvids not for DVD distribution- but I'm hoping this trend continues.
(Just my opinion)

[Paul Nowicki]

Originally Posted by Carlos Serrano

Hi, Thanks for your comments.
The clips were shooted with different settings, I´m still learning to use it, but most of them was:

Tripod and Remote Control (to eliminate vibrations when zooming or pressing buttons).
Image Stabilizer: OFF
Exposition Measure: MULTI
Iso: Auto and 50
White balance: AUTO
Filter: NO
Manual Exposure: S (F AUTO, Shutter 1/60)
Scene Select: FULL AUTO.

No Noise Reduction, No Flicker reduction, no Digital Zoom.

I´ve noticed that sometimes the footage looks sharper when zoomed.

It´s a shame the diagonal "\" bug of the codec/scaler, if Sanyo corrects it with a firmware update, the quality could be amazing in good light conditions for a camcorder of this price.
I´m e-mailing Sanyo reporting the bug. If many users e-mail them, maybe they will correct it soon. I´m telling them too to keep the video out when shooting, and a higher bitrate option. This would be great.

Thanks again.
Bye!

Carlos Serrano.
CG Animator.
www.i-real3d.com

Carlos.

I see you mentioned that you used ISO 50 on some of your shots. I see in the specifications page for the HD1 it specifies a minimum ISO-200 in the video mode and an ISO-50 in still mode only. I haven't received my HD1 yet so I can't confirm this. Just curious is there a 50 ISO setting in video mode?

Paul