Nikon D300s announced... still MJPEG at DVinfo.net

Ryan Koo · July 29th, 2009, 10:50 PM

Just official: Nikon introduces D300S with HD video recording: Digital Photography Review

Better than the 5d Mark II: 24p, price.

Worse than: 720p, APS-C sensor size, MJPEG codec.

This ain't gonna push Canon to add 24p to the 5d. What's next on the horizon in "Photo for HD Video" land?

Chris Hurd · July 29th, 2009, 11:06 PM

Thanks. Noticed the video features are a bit different than the D90: "The D300S’s
advanced D-Movie function benefits from a number of functional and technological
advancements, including an external stereo microphone input enabling high-fidelity
audio, plus in-camera movie editing."

I'm also liking the dual card slots (CF and SDHC). And one important
thing that Nikon does but Canon doesn't: the option for on-camera GPS.

Some more from DP Review: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/09...nikond3000.asp

Janne Miettinen · July 30th, 2009, 01:00 AM

Here are some sample clips from D300s!

D300S - D-Movie

I don't own a D90, but looking at the left bottom corner movie (colored buildings at night), the rolling shutter doesn't look as bad as D90's. The upper right movie also has some panning in the end, and it doesn't stutter. Can anyone else confirm what I'm seeing?

Janne Miettinen · July 30th, 2009, 01:06 AM

One more thing from that d-movie page!

"And Tripod mode gives you control over the depth of field with a selectable aperture of up to f/16.*

* With exposure modes A and M."

Is the exposure mode M something that is available on the D90/D5000???

Drew Curran · July 30th, 2009, 02:14 AM

I wonder if the sound recording abilities on the nikon will mean not having to use a separate sound recorder as in the 5dmk2?

I see there is a 5 min limit when shooting 720p.

Drew

Jack Kelly · July 30th, 2009, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Curran

I see there is a 5 min limit when shooting 720p.

I guess I wont be selling my GH1 to buy a D300s then!

Ethan Cooper · July 30th, 2009, 03:52 AM

After reading through their stuff, I have no clue if they did or didn't implement manual control and that's the problem. If they gave the camera manual control in d-movie mode don't you think they'd be telling everyone loud and clear?

The image in the viewfinder looks like it has an "M" and an ISO setting of 200 so maybe they have manual control but who knows.

Until we know more about this camera I'll keep the rest of my opinions to myself.

Tony Tibbetts · July 30th, 2009, 12:13 PM

This seems interesting:

"You can also select the sensitivity level for either built-in microphone or external microphone, choosing from auto, high, medium or low."

If they've improved the jello and added manual contols... this could turn out to be a nice camera.

Heck if they'd just make the shutter manual it would be nice, I could live with any errant ISO noise.

Andrew Davies · July 30th, 2009, 12:59 PM

How does this codec compare with the Canon Mk2?

Andy

Ethan Cooper · July 30th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Davies

How does this codec compare with the Canon Mk2?

Andy

If it's the same as the D90's codec it doesn't compare. I'd like to see some full rez clips from Nikon.

Ger Griffin · July 30th, 2009, 06:00 PM

If its slightly sharper than the d90 footage with manual controls and less jello then to me its very good news, especially considering i recently bought a 50mm f1.4g lens which can be used for autofocus during movie recording. This, i believe works based on contrast detection. Could prove ideal for a situation where there is something very white that needs to be kept in focus in the scene. enough said.

Tony Davies-Patrick · July 31st, 2009, 03:54 AM

Nice to see that the new version has more mic options and manual control than previous models.

It is nice to also see the new Nikon update of the 700-200mm F/2.8 VR II.

I think that Nikon are working on updates to the pro & semi-pro full-frame versions - D700 & D3X. With a possible video add-on to the mid-pro body at a future date. However, I don't think that the D3X and future top-tear bodies will include a video option for a while yet.

Nathan Nazeck · July 31st, 2009, 05:07 PM

Why are they so vague about the manual exposure control? Is it "fake" control like the d5000? or can you actually select real aperture? I guess we have to wait until someone gets their hands on it.

Paulo Teixeira · July 31st, 2009, 09:06 PM

It’s in Nikon’s best interest to have the successor of the D700 include a video mode as good quality as the Canon 5D Mark II. Lest face it, that’s a big selling point.

Imagine if it was the other way around in which the Sony A900 had a video mode and the Canon 5D Mark II didn’t. The A900 would have been a massive threat to the 5D Mark II.

Emmanuel Plakiotis · August 2nd, 2009, 04:52 AM

I've read in a preview that the AF doesn't work after you press the rec button, meaning it can't do follow focus as the GH-1 does.

Very nice video, seems the jello effect didn't migrate to this camera:
YouTube - nikon d300s sur le terrain

Does anybody know if the European version can do 25p?

July 29th, 2009, 10:50 PM	#1
Ryan Koo Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 92	Nikon D300s announced... still MJPEG Just official: Nikon introduces D300S with HD video recording: Digital Photography Review Better than the 5d Mark II: 24p, price. Worse than: 720p, APS-C sensor size, MJPEG codec. This ain't gonna push Canon to add 24p to the 5d. What's next on the horizon in "Photo for HD Video" land?

July 29th, 2009, 11:06 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Thanks. Noticed the video features are a bit different than the D90: "The D300S’s advanced D-Movie function benefits from a number of functional and technological advancements, including an external stereo microphone input enabling high-fidelity audio, plus in-camera movie editing." I'm also liking the dual card slots (CF and SDHC). And one important thing that Nikon does but Canon doesn't: the option for on-camera GPS. Some more from DP Review: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0907/09...nikond3000.asp __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

July 30th, 2009, 02:14 AM	#5
Drew Curran Major Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: N. Ireland Posts: 370	interesting I wonder if the sound recording abilities on the nikon will mean not having to use a separate sound recorder as in the 5dmk2? I see there is a 5 min limit when shooting 720p. Drew __________________ Pixol www.pixol.co www.facebook.com/pixolmedia www.twitter.com/pixolmedia

July 30th, 2009, 03:52 AM	#7
Ethan Cooper Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 1,400 Images: 5	After reading through their stuff, I have no clue if they did or didn't implement manual control and that's the problem. If they gave the camera manual control in d-movie mode don't you think they'd be telling everyone loud and clear? The image in the viewfinder looks like it has an "M" and an ISO setting of 200 so maybe they have manual control but who knows. Until we know more about this camera I'll keep the rest of my opinions to myself. __________________ ∅ -Ethan Cooper Last edited by Ethan Cooper; July 30th, 2009 at 08:11 AM.

July 31st, 2009, 03:54 AM	#12
Tony Davies-Patrick Trustee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 1,589	Nice to see that the new version has more mic options and manual control than previous models. It is nice to also see the new Nikon update of the 700-200mm F/2.8 VR II. I think that Nikon are working on updates to the pro & semi-pro full-frame versions - D700 & D3X. With a possible video add-on to the mid-pro body at a future date. However, I don't think that the D3X and future top-tear bodies will include a video option for a while yet. __________________ www.WILDCARP.com www.NIKON.me.uk

July 30th, 2009, 01:00 AM	#3
Janne Miettinen New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Espoo, Finland Posts: 12	Here are some sample clips from D300s! D300S - D-Movie I don't own a D90, but looking at the left bottom corner movie (colored buildings at night), the rolling shutter doesn't look as bad as D90's. The upper right movie also has some panning in the end, and it doesn't stutter. Can anyone else confirm what I'm seeing?

July 30th, 2009, 01:06 AM	#4
Janne Miettinen New Boot Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Espoo, Finland Posts: 12	One more thing from that d-movie page! "And Tripod mode gives you control over the depth of field with a selectable aperture of up to f/16.* * With exposure modes A and M." Is the exposure mode M something that is available on the D90/D5000???

July 30th, 2009, 12:13 PM	#8
Tony Tibbetts Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 385	This seems interesting: "You can also select the sensitivity level for either built-in microphone or external microphone, choosing from auto, high, medium or low." If they've improved the jello and added manual contols... this could turn out to be a nice camera. Heck if they'd just make the shutter manual it would be nice, I could live with any errant ISO noise.

July 30th, 2009, 12:59 PM	#9
Andrew Davies Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wales Posts: 104	How does this codec compare with the Canon Mk2? Andy

July 30th, 2009, 06:00 PM	#11
Ger Griffin Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 579	If its slightly sharper than the d90 footage with manual controls and less jello then to me its very good news, especially considering i recently bought a 50mm f1.4g lens which can be used for autofocus during movie recording. This, i believe works based on contrast detection. Could prove ideal for a situation where there is something very white that needs to be kept in focus in the scene. enough said.

July 31st, 2009, 05:07 PM	#13
Nathan Nazeck Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 80	Why are they so vague about the manual exposure control? Is it "fake" control like the d5000? or can you actually select real aperture? I guess we have to wait until someone gets their hands on it. __________________ I'm watching television... in color http://www.prodigyvideo.com

July 31st, 2009, 09:06 PM	#14
Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	It’s in Nikon’s best interest to have the successor of the D700 include a video mode as good quality as the Canon 5D Mark II. Lest face it, that’s a big selling point. Imagine if it was the other way around in which the Sony A900 had a video mode and the Canon 5D Mark II didn’t. The A900 would have been a massive threat to the 5D Mark II. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot

August 2nd, 2009, 04:52 AM	#15
Emmanuel Plakiotis Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 344	I've read in a preview that the AF doesn't work after you press the rec button, meaning it can't do follow focus as the GH-1 does. Very nice video, seems the jello effect didn't migrate to this camera: YouTube - nikon d300s sur le terrain Does anybody know if the European version can do 25p?