Vertical Lines at DVinfo.net

Will Nuttall · July 25th, 2003, 07:38 PM

I have a problem when rendering my video. I use Premiere 6 with the update. When I render video I get thin vertical lines on my footage. I have a feeling it is macroblocking. I have used several differnt codecs and I don't compress the footage. I am lost. The original footage has no lines and several different cameras have the same effect. Any ideas?

Kylie Wilson · July 28th, 2003, 11:54 PM

I'm having the same problem, I'm new to Premier so I cannot help you. If I fix the problem I will let you know.

Will Nuttall · July 29th, 2003, 07:46 AM

What kind of mother board do you have? I am using a KT4V which has a VIA KT400 chipset. I am using XP. I have a feeling the mother board my be to blame

Rob Lohman · July 30th, 2003, 03:53 PM

Can you put up a picture (full resolution uncompressed please)
somewhere?

Will Nuttall · July 30th, 2003, 11:30 PM

Here is a small photo of the problem. You can see the large blocks on her neck. This was only after one render!

http://playlilght.tripod.com/

Jason Tammemagi · July 31st, 2003, 01:23 AM

Okay, now that I see your image I see that it is just like one of the problems I am having. I had assumed that it was the method of deinterlacing I was using but maybe it was just the render. Although I was using After Effects. I'll check later if I get the problem rendering without modifying the footage at all.

Jay.

Rob Lohman · July 31st, 2003, 04:36 AM

This image has some clue, but please post a full resolution
uncompressed version. Also, does this also happen if you just
import the footage and then render out? Or only when you "do
something" with the footage?

To what format/codec are you rendering?

Will Nuttall · July 31st, 2003, 06:24 AM

The problem happens whenever footage is rendered. If no rendering is done in the timeline and then there are no lines when output to DV. I am using XP with VIA chipset motherboard and NVida display card. Don't know if they are a problem.

I have posted a full size grabe at:

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...elected=400705

Rob Lohman · July 31st, 2003, 08:56 AM

That link doesn't seem to work...

Glen Elliott · July 31st, 2003, 11:28 AM

Will, Rob was asking what codec your using to render out your footage. If it's only in footage you've altered and requires rendering it could be the codec at fault.

Will Nuttall · July 31st, 2003, 08:02 PM

I think the link will work now, you have to click on the thumbnail.

I am using the Microsoft DV (PAL) codec. I have tried other 3rd party DV codecs and got same result. I have been through every setting in premiere and it makes no difference. I have a demo of pinnacle edition and I have the same problems on that software also. I have tried updating directX and nothing. Thanks for your help.

Rob Lohman · August 11th, 2003, 04:00 AM

And these lines aren't in the source material, only when you are
rendering?

Will Nuttall · August 12th, 2003, 05:36 AM

Yup. Not in the source only in the rendered footage

Jason Heck · August 12th, 2003, 08:05 AM

What has changed since the lines started showing up? Or have they always been there?

Typical question, have you done a complete uninstall and reinstall of Premiere? Sometimes the codecs get get corrupted from crashes.
I'd try un-installing everything and reinstall. (ie, directX, Premiere, andythiung with video codecs)

J

Jason Heck · August 12th, 2003, 08:06 AM

Wait, I have another idea. What drive is your preview footage being rendered to? You should have your preview footage rendered to a different drive than your raw footage drive.

July 25th, 2003, 07:38 PM	#1
Will Nuttall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 25	Vertical Lines I have a problem when rendering my video. I use Premiere 6 with the update. When I render video I get thin vertical lines on my footage. I have a feeling it is macroblocking. I have used several differnt codecs and I don't compress the footage. I am lost. The original footage has no lines and several different cameras have the same effect. Any ideas?

July 28th, 2003, 11:54 PM	#2
Kylie Wilson New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 12	lines I'm having the same problem, I'm new to Premier so I cannot help you. If I fix the problem I will let you know.

July 30th, 2003, 03:53 PM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Can you put up a picture (full resolution uncompressed please) somewhere? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 31st, 2003, 04:36 AM	#7
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	This image has some clue, but please post a full resolution uncompressed version. Also, does this also happen if you just import the footage and then render out? Or only when you "do something" with the footage? To what format/codec are you rendering? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 31st, 2003, 08:56 AM	#9
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	That link doesn't seem to work... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 29th, 2003, 07:46 AM	#3
Will Nuttall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 25	What kind of mother board do you have? I am using a KT4V which has a VIA KT400 chipset. I am using XP. I have a feeling the mother board my be to blame

July 30th, 2003, 11:30 PM	#5
Will Nuttall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 25	Here is a small photo of the problem. You can see the large blocks on her neck. This was only after one render! http://playlilght.tripod.com/

July 31st, 2003, 01:23 AM	#6
Jason Tammemagi Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 43	Okay, now that I see your image I see that it is just like one of the problems I am having. I had assumed that it was the method of deinterlacing I was using but maybe it was just the render. Although I was using After Effects. I'll check later if I get the problem rendering without modifying the footage at all. Jay.

July 31st, 2003, 06:24 AM	#8
Will Nuttall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 25	The problem happens whenever footage is rendered. If no rendering is done in the timeline and then there are no lines when output to DV. I am using XP with VIA chipset motherboard and NVida display card. Don't know if they are a problem. I have posted a full size grabe at: http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...elected=400705

July 31st, 2003, 11:28 AM	#10
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Will, Rob was asking what codec your using to render out your footage. If it's only in footage you've altered and requires rendering it could be the codec at fault.

July 31st, 2003, 08:02 PM	#11
Will Nuttall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 25	I think the link will work now, you have to click on the thumbnail. I am using the Microsoft DV (PAL) codec. I have tried other 3rd party DV codecs and got same result. I have been through every setting in premiere and it makes no difference. I have a demo of pinnacle edition and I have the same problems on that software also. I have tried updating directX and nothing. Thanks for your help.

August 11th, 2003, 04:00 AM	#12
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	And these lines aren't in the source material, only when you are rendering? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 12th, 2003, 05:36 AM	#13
Will Nuttall Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 25	Yup. Not in the source only in the rendered footage

August 12th, 2003, 08:05 AM	#14
Jason Heck New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 14	What has changed since the lines started showing up? Or have they always been there? Typical question, have you done a complete uninstall and reinstall of Premiere? Sometimes the codecs get get corrupted from crashes. I'd try un-installing everything and reinstall. (ie, directX, Premiere, andythiung with video codecs) J

August 12th, 2003, 08:06 AM	#15
Jason Heck New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 14	Wait, I have another idea. What drive is your preview footage being rendered to? You should have your preview footage rendered to a different drive than your raw footage drive.