New NLE's Why do they all want to conform at DVinfo.net

Brendan Sundry · November 13th, 2004, 08:59 AM

Why do Adobe Premiere Pro and Avid Dvxpress make me wait 10 minutes at the start of a project conforming my files. I just want to import them and start editing.

Is there anyway to stop this? If not ill just stikc to Premiere 6.5

Thankyou

Glenn Chan · November 13th, 2004, 09:56 PM

Premiere Pro converts your audio to 32-bit floating point by design. Yes you'll have to wait.

I am an Avid virgin, so I can't speak on it.

Premiere 6.5: I find Premiere Pro and Vegas to be much, much better. Premiere 6.5 is a little annoying since it lets you lose sync when you delete video (tracks above may not ripple... it lets you move audio out of sync without having to unlock/ungroup it first).

2- Where are you getting footage from?

If you are working with DV footage on tapes, try capturing with the NLE you want to edit in.

3- Vegas conforms footage really fast (faster than Final Cut and Premiere). It doesn't convert your audio like Premiere does but it builds audio waveforms when you put footage into the timeline. You can edit away while the waveform is being built, or you can cancel it if you don't like waveforms.

I understand you're probably not going to pay for Vegas so that may not be of much use.

Brendan Sundry · November 14th, 2004, 03:19 AM

Thanks

Whats is 32 bit floating point?

Glenn Chan · November 14th, 2004, 12:36 PM

See http://stevehollasch.com/cgindex/coding/ieeefloat.html

That knowledge is not very practical. Just know that any decent audio program will render your audio with 32-bit floating point numbers (they are big numbers). Most or nearly all editing programs will do that.

Dan Euritt · November 14th, 2004, 11:49 PM

i do not have any sync problems when editing with premiere 6.5... and speaking of sync, premiere 6.5 has the magnet function, which cannot be duplicated in vegas... you have to do several clicks to line up new clips in vegas, for every single edit, while they automatically line up in premiere without any keyclicks.

you will also find that the titler in premiere 6.5 is way better than the titler in vegas, in several different respects.

that said, i would probably still take vegas over both premiere pro and dvxpress... just be aware that vegas is real slow at rendering footage, especially if you try to do 3-d stuff.

November 13th, 2004, 08:59 AM	#1
Brendan Sundry Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 112	New NLE's Why do they all want to conform Why do Adobe Premiere Pro and Avid Dvxpress make me wait 10 minutes at the start of a project conforming my files. I just want to import them and start editing. Is there anyway to stop this? If not ill just stikc to Premiere 6.5 Thankyou

November 13th, 2004, 09:56 PM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Premiere Pro converts your audio to 32-bit floating point by design. Yes you'll have to wait. I am an Avid virgin, so I can't speak on it. Premiere 6.5: I find Premiere Pro and Vegas to be much, much better. Premiere 6.5 is a little annoying since it lets you lose sync when you delete video (tracks above may not ripple... it lets you move audio out of sync without having to unlock/ungroup it first). 2- Where are you getting footage from? If you are working with DV footage on tapes, try capturing with the NLE you want to edit in. 3- Vegas conforms footage really fast (faster than Final Cut and Premiere). It doesn't convert your audio like Premiere does but it builds audio waveforms when you put footage into the timeline. You can edit away while the waveform is being built, or you can cancel it if you don't like waveforms. I understand you're probably not going to pay for Vegas so that may not be of much use.

November 14th, 2004, 03:19 AM	#3
Brendan Sundry Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 112	Thanks Whats is 32 bit floating point?

November 14th, 2004, 12:36 PM	#4
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	See http://stevehollasch.com/cgindex/coding/ieeefloat.html That knowledge is not very practical. Just know that any decent audio program will render your audio with 32-bit floating point numbers (they are big numbers). Most or nearly all editing programs will do that.

November 14th, 2004, 11:49 PM	#5
Dan Euritt Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 1,132	i do not have any sync problems when editing with premiere 6.5... and speaking of sync, premiere 6.5 has the magnet function, which cannot be duplicated in vegas... you have to do several clicks to line up new clips in vegas, for every single edit, while they automatically line up in premiere without any keyclicks. you will also find that the titler in premiere 6.5 is way better than the titler in vegas, in several different respects. that said, i would probably still take vegas over both premiere pro and dvxpress... just be aware that vegas is real slow at rendering footage, especially if you try to do 3-d stuff.