batch capture question at DVinfo.net

Dylan Couper · October 14th, 2002, 01:15 PM

I did a shoot two weeks ago, for which I used my 2 Canon XL1's and Keith Loh's XL1s. When I captured everything into Vegas video (using the same camera as a deck for all the tapes), it sorted everything from the 2 older XL1's into seperate clips for each take, but basicaly dumped everything from the XL1s into one single huge file.

Anyone know why?

Aaron Koolen · October 14th, 2002, 01:51 PM

Not exactly, but does the Xl1 reset the timecode whenever you start and stop recording? I'm thinking that if the xl1s is like my Xm2, then the timecode is kept in tact if you stop and start again and the NLE might see this as continuous and just assume it's one shot....Then again I could be WAY off base here! :)

Edward Troxel · October 14th, 2002, 02:15 PM

Was the date/time set on the XL-1s? Vegas breaks clips based on changes to the date/time. If the date/time is not set, it will give you one huge file instead of several smaller files.

Brian M. Dickman · October 14th, 2002, 02:15 PM

When you say "used the same camera as a deck" you mean the same camera that the footage was taken on, or you swapped tapes shot on one camera to another?

It shouldn't really matter, but just for clarification. I sounds as if the camera wasn't writing the datacode correctly or something (not knowing too much about how DV scenes are detected myself). I'd try capturing from the original shooting camera and see if it makes a difference.

It's a bit of a hassle, but you could also try doing the capture with Scenalyzer Live (or run the old free Scenalyzer on the already captured footage) and see if Scenalyzer treats the scenes differently. http://www.scenalyzer.com

You could also post in the Sonic Foundry forums directly. There are some pretty helpful guys there who know SoFo software backwards and forwards, and often times you'll get a reply from a SoFo employee. http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/default.asp

Dylan Couper · October 14th, 2002, 02:35 PM

Brian, I meant the tapes came from all three cameras, but I only captured them from the same XL1.

I think Edward solved this mystery though. I'm pretty sure when I checked out Keith's XL1s that the little time/date thing was blinking, and I think I remember him saying he didn't have a date battery in it!
Congrats Edward, you win the noPrize!

Keith, get a battery already! ;)

Jeff Donald · October 14th, 2002, 02:41 PM

He'll be able to afford one once you pay the rental rate on his XL1s.

Jeff

Dylan Couper · October 15th, 2002, 10:38 PM

Fortunately, in Canadian dollars, the rental rate on an XL1s translates into a stick of gum and a kick in the pants. :)

October 14th, 2002, 01:15 PM	#1
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	batch capture question I did a shoot two weeks ago, for which I used my 2 Canon XL1's and Keith Loh's XL1s. When I captured everything into Vegas video (using the same camera as a deck for all the tapes), it sorted everything from the 2 older XL1's into seperate clips for each take, but basicaly dumped everything from the XL1s into one single huge file. Anyone know why?

October 14th, 2002, 01:51 PM	#2
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Not exactly, but does the Xl1 reset the timecode whenever you start and stop recording? I'm thinking that if the xl1s is like my Xm2, then the timecode is kept in tact if you stop and start again and the NLE might see this as continuous and just assume it's one shot....Then again I could be WAY off base here! :)

October 14th, 2002, 02:15 PM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Was the date/time set on the XL-1s? Vegas breaks clips based on changes to the date/time. If the date/time is not set, it will give you one huge file instead of several smaller files.

October 14th, 2002, 02:15 PM	#4
Brian M. Dickman Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 148	When you say "used the same camera as a deck" you mean the same camera that the footage was taken on, or you swapped tapes shot on one camera to another? It shouldn't really matter, but just for clarification. I sounds as if the camera wasn't writing the datacode correctly or something (not knowing too much about how DV scenes are detected myself). I'd try capturing from the original shooting camera and see if it makes a difference. It's a bit of a hassle, but you could also try doing the capture with Scenalyzer Live (or run the old free Scenalyzer on the already captured footage) and see if Scenalyzer treats the scenes differently. http://www.scenalyzer.com You could also post in the Sonic Foundry forums directly. There are some pretty helpful guys there who know SoFo software backwards and forwards, and often times you'll get a reply from a SoFo employee. http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/default.asp

October 14th, 2002, 02:35 PM	#5
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Brian, I meant the tapes came from all three cameras, but I only captured them from the same XL1. I think Edward solved this mystery though. I'm pretty sure when I checked out Keith's XL1s that the little time/date thing was blinking, and I think I remember him saying he didn't have a date battery in it! Congrats Edward, you win the noPrize! Keith, get a battery already! ;)

October 14th, 2002, 02:41 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	He'll be able to afford one once you pay the rental rate on his XL1s. Jeff

October 15th, 2002, 10:38 PM	#7
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Fortunately, in Canadian dollars, the rental rate on an XL1s translates into a stick of gum and a kick in the pants. :)