Shooting day for night on DV.. at DVinfo.net

Adam Jennings · July 16th, 2003, 03:18 AM

Hi, I'm currently trying to research techniques used when shooting day for night.

I'm shooting my first full-length feature next summer and as a bid to save costs I might shoot day for night.

However, I've never used this technique before and want to find out more about it; specifically:

- are filters required whilst shooting?

- what process does the film have to go through in post to give
the impression of night?

- will it significantly reduce the cost of shooting if I film the night
scenes during the day?

Any help or other comments / feedback on this technique would be much appreciated.

Adam

Rob Lohman · July 16th, 2003, 04:28 AM

A quote from Alex:

Quote:

The best way to shoot night scenes, that I have found, is to do it right before it gets completely dark outside. Right when the sun sets. At them times, even my little Panasonic DV52 with just 1 1/4" CCD does quite well. I can have the exposure at only +3dB to +6dB (no grain is noticable at that setting) and everything will look pretty good, you can even see the clouds in the sky, and it looks like night

And a thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...&threadid=8419

Derrick Begin · July 16th, 2003, 07:26 AM

Adam,

Here is a link: http://www.2-pop.com/ubbthreads/show...5&o=93&fpart=1

You also might want to pick up the magazine American Cinematographer that contains an article about "28 Days Later" and the cinematographer's idea of shots of day for night.

Cheers!

Derrick

Adam Jennings · July 16th, 2003, 07:39 AM

Cheers for you help guys!

I'll look at both those - I'm in the UK so might be difficult to get hold of the magazine Derrick - but I'll scout around some shops and see waht I can find.

"28 Days Later" rocked, but I was surprised at the lack of a 'Danny Boyle' feel to it! Just didn't really seem like his!

Adam

Frank Granovski · July 16th, 2003, 01:22 PM

The way it's usually done is with blue lighting or a blue filter.

Ron Little · July 16th, 2003, 01:23 PM

Go to Videomakers web site ....

they have an article on shooting day for night.

Adam Jennings · July 16th, 2003, 02:07 PM

Thanks for the advice Frank

Ron, what's the url of the videomakers website?

Rob Lohman · July 17th, 2003, 04:34 AM

Better yet: a link to the exact article

Ron Little · July 17th, 2003, 08:54 AM

Sorry about the link you have to be a member of club vid to access the article if you are a subscriber your password is in the table of contents. Then just search thru the many helpful tips under lighting.

David Nussbaum · July 18th, 2003, 11:25 AM

what i did for my scene of day for night was simply white balance on something yellow, then make the iris very dark. it looked VERY sexy, though the sky was still quite light, however it lookd like moonlight, which is what we wanted.

Ron Little · July 18th, 2003, 01:56 PM

Now that sounds cool.

I am going to have to try that on a scene in a graveyard that I am working on.

Adam Jennings · July 22nd, 2003, 04:55 AM

Thanks for all your help everyone - I'll let you all know the results!

Rob Lohman · July 25th, 2003, 06:26 AM

Any results yet?

Tony Beazley · July 27th, 2003, 09:59 PM

I heard you are to stop down 1 1/2 to 2 stops to get a good night effect shot I would wait and change the contrast and color tint in post.
What was the name of that show on 3 years ago ..Movie Magic ? Had ILM on there alot.Great show it was .Maybe came on AMC or FX.Sure do miss it.
m2cw

Tony

Ron Little · July 28th, 2003, 09:35 AM

Is that the show were they show you how they make the effects you see in the movies?

I wonder if you can find that show on tape or dvd I would like to see it.

July 16th, 2003, 03:18 AM	#1
Adam Jennings New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7	Shooting day for night on DV.. Hi, I'm currently trying to research techniques used when shooting day for night. I'm shooting my first full-length feature next summer and as a bid to save costs I might shoot day for night. However, I've never used this technique before and want to find out more about it; specifically: - are filters required whilst shooting? - what process does the film have to go through in post to give the impression of night? - will it significantly reduce the cost of shooting if I film the night scenes during the day? Any help or other comments / feedback on this technique would be much appreciated. Adam __________________ ----------------------------- AJ www.redboxgroup.net

July 16th, 2003, 07:39 AM	#4
Adam Jennings New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7	Cheers for you help guys! I'll look at both those - I'm in the UK so might be difficult to get hold of the magazine Derrick - but I'll scout around some shops and see waht I can find. "28 Days Later" rocked, but I was surprised at the lack of a 'Danny Boyle' feel to it! Just didn't really seem like his! Adam __________________ ----------------------------- AJ www.redboxgroup.net

July 16th, 2003, 02:07 PM	#7
Adam Jennings New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7	Thanks for the advice Frank Ron, what's the url of the videomakers website? __________________ ----------------------------- AJ www.redboxgroup.net

July 17th, 2003, 04:34 AM	#8
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Better yet: a link to the exact article __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 18th, 2003, 11:25 AM	#10
David Nussbaum Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 69	what i did for my scene of day for night was simply white balance on something yellow, then make the iris very dark. it looked VERY sexy, though the sky was still quite light, however it lookd like moonlight, which is what we wanted. __________________ Proud Owner of the AG-DVX100 :D

July 16th, 2003, 07:26 AM	#3
Derrick Begin Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York Posts: 329	Adam, Here is a link: http://www.2-pop.com/ubbthreads/show...5&o=93&fpart=1 You also might want to pick up the magazine American Cinematographer that contains an article about "28 Days Later" and the cinematographer's idea of shots of day for night. Cheers! Derrick

July 16th, 2003, 01:22 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The way it's usually done is with blue lighting or a blue filter.

July 16th, 2003, 01:23 PM	#6
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Go to Videomakers web site .... they have an article on shooting day for night.

July 17th, 2003, 08:54 AM	#9
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Sorry about the link you have to be a member of club vid to access the article if you are a subscriber your password is in the table of contents. Then just search thru the many helpful tips under lighting.

July 18th, 2003, 01:56 PM	#11
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Now that sounds cool. I am going to have to try that on a scene in a graveyard that I am working on.

July 22nd, 2003, 04:55 AM	#12
Adam Jennings New Boot Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7	Thanks for all your help everyone - I'll let you all know the results! __________________ ----------------------------- AJ www.redboxgroup.net

July 25th, 2003, 06:26 AM	#13
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Any results yet? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

July 27th, 2003, 09:59 PM	#14
Tony Beazley New Boot Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tennessee Posts: 20	I heard you are to stop down 1 1/2 to 2 stops to get a good night effect shot I would wait and change the contrast and color tint in post. What was the name of that show on 3 years ago ..Movie Magic ? Had ILM on there alot.Great show it was .Maybe came on AMC or FX.Sure do miss it. m2cw Tony

July 28th, 2003, 09:35 AM	#15
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Is that the show were they show you how they make the effects you see in the movies? I wonder if you can find that show on tape or dvd I would like to see it.