blood effects

Keith Loh · July 25th, 2003, 09:25 AM

Yes, I was wondering about the multiple puncture method.

Actually, I think we will be filming the bleeding hidden by the body in the foreground and have a spurt of blood coming from behind. That way I won't have to worry about taping it into clothing.

Keith Loh · July 26th, 2003, 06:56 PM

Trying a few tests. It occurs to me that the 5/8ths vinyl tube that I have over the valve is too wide for adequate pressure. But in the example below they are using a garden hose! I pumped it a good fifty times and - using water as a test - it only comes out like it's coming from my tap.

Question: do I have to prime the tube as in this example?

http://www.exposure.co.uk/eejit/blood/

is the rest of the blood going to be stored in the pump's bottle (reservoir)?

Keith Loh · July 26th, 2003, 07:09 PM

Oh by the way the Cherry Kool Aid mixture recipe is working out the best, but it's lumpy so I'm going to put it into a blender.

And the hose clamp was a good call. I had it come apart on me unclamped, spraying water all over the kitchen.

Mike Rehmus · July 27th, 2003, 05:20 PM

Someone wanted a fake blood reciepe.

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howtos/ht/fakeblood.htm

Keith Loh · July 27th, 2003, 09:32 PM

I figured out the principle behind the Hudson sprayer. SMALL HOLES.

Keith Loh · July 28th, 2003, 11:54 PM

First blood test. Hudson sprayer: failure. Blood: pass.

http://www.pyroglyphfilms.com/produc...bloodtest1.mov

Keith Loh · July 29th, 2003, 12:13 AM

With my second batch of blood I conclude:

SUGAR FREE CHERRY KOOLAID MIX IS NOT THE SAME AS REGULAR SUGARY CHERRY KOOLAID MIX.

In fact, it is PINK, whereas the regular cherry koolaid mix was satisfyingly BLOOD RED.

**** YOU 'GOOD FOR YOU URBAN YUPPIE STORE' that only has sugar free!

John Locke · July 29th, 2003, 12:39 AM

Keith,

You should've left the shower like that and invited some friends over to watch a movie. ;)

Does cherry Kool-Aid stain? How about the grout in the shower? Is it pink now?

Keith Loh · July 29th, 2003, 01:10 AM

Seems to come off okay. Of course I watered it down right after that blood bit.

John Locke · July 29th, 2003, 01:16 AM

I have a feeling it probably stains pretty badly. You might want to get some light colored cloth scraps of different materials, splash them with this stuff, let them dry, and then throw them in the washer and see which, if any of them, washes clean. If a certain material does wash clean, that, at least, might save you some expense in buying more than one outfit for the actors.

Josh Frye · July 29th, 2003, 01:47 AM

I guess with the sugar free pink Koolaid stuff, you could probably do the pink Kilngon blood from Star Trek VI. My friend had some fake blood that looked really good and tasted like cheery Jam. Don't know who made that stuff though. Good luck with your blood effects.

July 25th, 2003, 09:25 AM	#16
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Yes, I was wondering about the multiple puncture method. Actually, I think we will be filming the bleeding hidden by the body in the foreground and have a spurt of blood coming from behind. That way I won't have to worry about taping it into clothing. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 26th, 2003, 06:56 PM	#17
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Put together the spray kit Trying a few tests. It occurs to me that the 5/8ths vinyl tube that I have over the valve is too wide for adequate pressure. But in the example below they are using a garden hose! I pumped it a good fifty times and - using water as a test - it only comes out like it's coming from my tap. Question: do I have to prime the tube as in this example? http://www.exposure.co.uk/eejit/blood/ is the rest of the blood going to be stored in the pump's bottle (reservoir)? __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 26th, 2003, 07:09 PM	#18
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Oh by the way the Cherry Kool Aid mixture recipe is working out the best, but it's lumpy so I'm going to put it into a blender. And the hose clamp was a good call. I had it come apart on me unclamped, spraying water all over the kitchen. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 27th, 2003, 05:20 PM	#19
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	Fake blood Someone wanted a fake blood reciepe. http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howtos/ht/fakeblood.htm __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

July 27th, 2003, 09:32 PM	#20
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	I figured out the principle behind the Hudson sprayer. SMALL HOLES. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 28th, 2003, 11:54 PM	#21
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	First blood test. Hudson sprayer: failure. Blood: pass. http://www.pyroglyphfilms.com/produc...bloodtest1.mov __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 29th, 2003, 12:13 AM	#22
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	DO NOT USE SUGAR FREE CHERRY KOOLAID MIX With my second batch of blood I conclude: SUGAR FREE CHERRY KOOLAID MIX IS NOT THE SAME AS REGULAR SUGARY CHERRY KOOLAID MIX. In fact, it is PINK, whereas the regular cherry koolaid mix was satisfyingly BLOOD RED. **** YOU 'GOOD FOR YOU URBAN YUPPIE STORE' that only has sugar free! __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 29th, 2003, 12:39 AM	#23
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Keith, You should've left the shower like that and invited some friends over to watch a movie. ;) Does cherry Kool-Aid stain? How about the grout in the shower? Is it pink now? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

July 29th, 2003, 01:10 AM	#24
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Seems to come off okay. Of course I watered it down right after that blood bit. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

July 29th, 2003, 01:16 AM	#25
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	I have a feeling it probably stains pretty badly. You might want to get some light colored cloth scraps of different materials, splash them with this stuff, let them dry, and then throw them in the washer and see which, if any of them, washes clean. If a certain material does wash clean, that, at least, might save you some expense in buying more than one outfit for the actors. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

July 29th, 2003, 01:47 AM	#26
Josh Frye Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Berlin Germany Posts: 46	I guess with the sugar free pink Koolaid stuff, you could probably do the pink Kilngon blood from Star Trek VI. My friend had some fake blood that looked really good and tasted like cheery Jam. Don't know who made that stuff though. Good luck with your blood effects. __________________ Cheers

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