Training CDs and DVDs at DVinfo.net

John Locke · March 26th, 2002, 12:41 AM

I've been learning the ins and outs of DV and related software on my own...probably like most...and have "glossed over" or missed somethings that I'm sure would make life easier. Especially with software programs like FCP and Cleaner...I use 'em...but how well I use them is another matter.

So, I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of the Training CDs or DVDs that are offered (for various software) and if they are worth the purchase.

DVCreators.net (http://dvcreators.net/) has a series that looks good. And "The Intelligent Assistant" (http://www.intelligentassistance.com/) series looks pretty good, too. Any other suggestions or input?

Ken Tanaka · March 26th, 2002, 12:56 AM

The DVCreators' Power Start and Secrets cd's are thoughtfully designed and professionally produced. Personally, I got value from both. Such training materials, however, are easiest to use if you have a 2nd Mac (like a Powerbook) at hand to run them from. Trying to run the cd tutorials on the same screen occupied by FCP is an excercise in futility.

On the book front, Tom Wolfe's "Final Cut Pro Workshop" has been the most useful to me. Tom's a very experienced editor and presents the material from a practical application, rather than a feature list, perspective. The current edition only covers version 2.x. In correspondence with Tom late last year he indicated that a 2nd edition covering version 3 was due out this spring/summer.

John Locke · March 26th, 2002, 04:19 AM

Thanks, Ken.

I'm betting you've got a copy of "Bonfire of the Vanities" on your nightstand right now...and that's what put the name Wolfe in your mind. ;)

Actually, it's Tom Wolsky who wrote the book you mentioned. I'm going to heed your advice and hold off on buying the book until the new edition comes out. I like the fact that it's laid out by usage rather than being simply a guide to features.

I'll also look more closely at the DVCreaters CDs you mentioned. They looked pretty good when I visited the site, but it's nice to hear an unbiased endorsement.

Ken Tanaka · March 26th, 2002, 09:29 AM

<< zchildress wrote: I'm betting you've got a copy of "Bonfire of the Vanities" on your nightstand right now...and that's what put the name Wolfe in your mind. ;) >>

Whew, I guess I charred-out last night. Anyway, Tom WOLSKY hangs out at 2-pop quite often. I don't know where Tom Wolfe hangs out.

Rob Lohman · March 26th, 2002, 09:51 AM

Anyone knows if such products are available for PC products like
Premiere, After Effects, Combustion etc.?

Thanks!

Vic Owen · March 26th, 2002, 12:02 PM

"Whew, I guess I charred-out last night. Anyway, Tom WOLSKY hangs out at 2-pop quite often. I don't know where Tom Wolfe hangs out."

My guess is that Tom Wolfe hangs out near a bank!

Another vote for the DVCreators stuff -- they pretty useful -- they've also updated Power Start for FCP 3.0. It's down loadable.

Chris Hurd · March 26th, 2002, 12:09 PM

Indeed it *is* nice to hear an unbiased recommendation of DVCreators, because my own recommendation probably wouldn't count, as I've known Josh and Michelle Mellicker, Guy Cochran and Steve Martin of DVCreators for a couple of years now. They are great folks and they make superb training materials.

On the PC side of things, try Mike Gunter's Premiere Training at www.videotidbits.com -- and yeah, I know him too. ;-)

John Locke · March 26th, 2002, 11:11 PM

<<My guess is that Tom Wolfe hangs out near a bank!>>

LOL

John Locke · March 29th, 2002, 08:42 PM

Ken,

I posted a question about FCP on another board...and guess who answered it? Surprise. Surprise. (Hint: It wasn't Tom Wolfe...similar spelling)

I guess that's advice I can take to the bank. (And maybe bump into Tom Wolfe hanging out while there)

Ken Tanaka · March 29th, 2002, 09:24 PM

<Haw!>

Chris Hurd · March 29th, 2002, 10:11 PM

Gee whiz, John... ask him to swing through here!

March 26th, 2002, 12:41 AM	#1
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Training CDs and DVDs I've been learning the ins and outs of DV and related software on my own...probably like most...and have "glossed over" or missed somethings that I'm sure would make life easier. Especially with software programs like FCP and Cleaner...I use 'em...but how well I use them is another matter. So, I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with any of the Training CDs or DVDs that are offered (for various software) and if they are worth the purchase. DVCreators.net (http://dvcreators.net/) has a series that looks good. And "The Intelligent Assistant" (http://www.intelligentassistance.com/) series looks pretty good, too. Any other suggestions or input? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

March 26th, 2002, 12:56 AM	#2
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	The DVCreators' Power Start and Secrets cd's are thoughtfully designed and professionally produced. Personally, I got value from both. Such training materials, however, are easiest to use if you have a 2nd Mac (like a Powerbook) at hand to run them from. Trying to run the cd tutorials on the same screen occupied by FCP is an excercise in futility. On the book front, Tom Wolfe's "Final Cut Pro Workshop" has been the most useful to me. Tom's a very experienced editor and presents the material from a practical application, rather than a feature list, perspective. The current edition only covers version 2.x. In correspondence with Tom late last year he indicated that a 2nd edition covering version 3 was due out this spring/summer. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 26th, 2002, 04:19 AM	#3
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Thanks, Ken. I'm betting you've got a copy of "Bonfire of the Vanities" on your nightstand right now...and that's what put the name Wolfe in your mind. ;) Actually, it's Tom Wolsky who wrote the book you mentioned. I'm going to heed your advice and hold off on buying the book until the new edition comes out. I like the fact that it's laid out by usage rather than being simply a guide to features. I'll also look more closely at the DVCreaters CDs you mentioned. They looked pretty good when I visited the site, but it's nice to hear an unbiased endorsement. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

March 26th, 2002, 09:29 AM	#4
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	<< zchildress wrote: I'm betting you've got a copy of "Bonfire of the Vanities" on your nightstand right now...and that's what put the name Wolfe in your mind. ;) >> Whew, I guess I charred-out last night. Anyway, Tom WOLSKY hangs out at 2-pop quite often. I don't know where Tom Wolfe hangs out. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 26th, 2002, 09:51 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Anyone knows if such products are available for PC products like Premiere, After Effects, Combustion etc.? Thanks! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

March 26th, 2002, 12:02 PM	#6
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	"Whew, I guess I charred-out last night. Anyway, Tom WOLSKY hangs out at 2-pop quite often. I don't know where Tom Wolfe hangs out." My guess is that Tom Wolfe hangs out near a bank! Another vote for the DVCreators stuff -- they pretty useful -- they've also updated Power Start for FCP 3.0. It's down loadable. __________________ -- Vic Owen --

March 26th, 2002, 12:09 PM	#7
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Indeed it is nice to hear an unbiased recommendation of DVCreators, because my own recommendation probably wouldn't count, as I've known Josh and Michelle Mellicker, Guy Cochran and Steve Martin of DVCreators for a couple of years now. They are great folks and they make superb training materials. On the PC side of things, try Mike Gunter's Premiere Training at www.videotidbits.com -- and yeah, I know him too. ;-) __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

March 26th, 2002, 11:11 PM	#8
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	<<My guess is that Tom Wolfe hangs out near a bank!>> LOL __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

March 29th, 2002, 08:42 PM	#9
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Speak of the devil... Ken, I posted a question about FCP on another board...and guess who answered it? Surprise. Surprise. (Hint: It wasn't Tom Wolfe...similar spelling) I guess that's advice I can take to the bank. (And maybe bump into Tom Wolfe hanging out while there) __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

March 29th, 2002, 09:24 PM	#10
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	<Haw!> __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

March 29th, 2002, 10:11 PM	#11
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Gee whiz, John... ask him to swing through here! __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!