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Old March 29th, 2009, 09:06 AM   #1
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tape reloading is killing me

One hour continuous recording time is not enough for many live shootings. I know I can get a clip-on hard drive friewire recorder, but $2000 for a 80gb, half the money of my A1??? Do you guys know any cheaper hard drive recorder? I am fine with used ones, anything under $600? Thanks
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Old March 29th, 2009, 09:29 AM   #2
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Sounds like you're in the market for one of these:

HVR-MRC1K | B&H Photo Video

That's the closest I know of to your $600 (used) price point.
Of course, this is new.

If you do a search on this website you will find a lot of discussion about this unit.
If you want a look at the manual for this unit, go here:

Sony Product Detail Page - HVRMRC1K

and click on the 'Downloads' tab.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 10:10 AM   #3
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Thanks so much... But this unit takes up to 16 GB flash card, still cant do 4-5 hour continuous shooting without reloading the card. So I think HDD 80GB+ would be ideal. Unfortunately its just beyond my affordability....
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Old March 29th, 2009, 10:16 AM   #4
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Why not capture to a laptop Pc if you are going to be static, I often capture to a pc for over 10 hrs continuous ( well nearly continuous )
My cheap tower unit is great for this.
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Old March 29th, 2009, 12:06 PM   #5
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This seems like an intriguing solution. With laptop prices as low as they are, it seems a basic laptop that could do this (if you didn't need to be moving around) could be had to do this for less than the on-cam recorders.

But also check out the Firestores, which I think can be had for around $750.

Edit: The one I was thinking of has been discontinued; here's its replacement, about $900:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...table_DTE.html
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Old March 29th, 2009, 03:13 PM   #6
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well, not all shooting conditions are ideal, sometimes can't even find an AC plug like an open field, and sometimes nowhere to place a computer like a small theater..... a 4-5 hour battery powered clip-on drive is always my first choice... so i'll just keep searching for an affordable used one.... If you happened to see one under $600 please let me know....thanks
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Old March 29th, 2009, 06:35 PM   #7
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Hi Juni,

May I ask what you're taping that lasts so long ??

Do you need to record in HD, or would SD be good enough ??

How often do you record without AC available ?

Harold
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Old April 1st, 2009, 08:37 AM   #8
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I must admit I haven't shot anything which doesn't have natural breaks or speakers padding things out with verbage that can hit the cutting room floor without any problem.

The only event that can I think which has that truly has point by point significance over long sustained periods would be a court case. The rest tend to be things that get recorded, but are never seen again in their totality. People may want every moment through the day continuously recorded, but do they ever watch the material all the way through?
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Old April 1st, 2009, 08:40 AM   #9
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Look at the Firestores on the Videoguys website. I already deleted the email but they had some refurbished models that might be just the thing for you.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 03:17 PM   #10
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Here's a refurbished Citidisk 80 GB drive for $649.00:
ProCon | CitiDISK HD External Video Capture Device | CDHD80

I haven't used these, but I know I've read other people have.

There are other Citidisk products at B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...arch&Q=*&bhs=t
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 08:28 AM   #11
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Hi Juni,

May I ask what you're taping that lasts so long ??

Do you need to record in HD, or would SD be good enough ??

How often do you record without AC available ?

Harold
It may not be too long, but longer than the one hour tape, sometimes its continuous like speech. Sometimes I get AC sometimes don't. Like last time I shot a show, I told the storyteller to pause for 10 sec in the middle so I could reload the tape, but he forgot, it wasn't totally my fault, but feel like very unprofessional.
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 08:36 AM   #12
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Here's a refurbished Citidisk 80 GB drive for $649.00:
ProCon | CitiDISK HD External Video Capture Device | CDHD80

I haven't used these, but I know I've read other people have.

There are other Citidisk products at B&H:
citidisk | B&H Photo Video
Thanks a lot, this refurbished one looks interesting......
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 08:44 AM   #13
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Hi Juni,

I've done all-day shoots, so lots of ways to set up for them.

Sounds like you can get buy either using the longer tapes, or by using the Cam's slower recording speed. I've done both, with excellent results.

For the longer tapes, I use the Panasonic DVC Professional ME - DVM80's. (AY-DVM80XJ )

Gives 80 mins at SP, and 120 mins at LP.

Harold
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Old April 3rd, 2009, 08:47 AM   #14
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Thanks so much... But this unit takes up to 16 GB flash card, still cant do 4-5 hour continuous shooting...
One of the reviewers mentioned using this with a 32GB card. Just an FYI.

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Old April 7th, 2009, 11:30 PM   #15
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Hi Juni,

I've done all-day shoots, so lots of ways to set up for them.

Sounds like you can get buy either using the longer tapes, or by using the Cam's slower recording speed. I've done both, with excellent results.

For the longer tapes, I use the Panasonic DVC Professional ME - DVM80's. (AY-DVM80XJ )

Gives 80 mins at SP, and 120 mins at LP.

Harold
Harold,

I heard that any DV tape longer than 60 min is not stable, especially for HDV shooting, more dropouts, have you experienced that?
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