color bars vs. color checker at DVinfo.net

Patrick Falls · December 23rd, 2003, 10:09 AM

i have an xl1 and i also have a gretag mcbeth color checker. i've read that the color bar inside the xl1 and xl1s isn't quite good. if i use my color checker will that be better?

Rob Lohman · December 23rd, 2003, 10:15 AM

The color bars inside the XL1 are indeed incorrect color bars. The
XL1S (newer model) has correct SMPTE standard compliance
color bars (or EBU bars for the PAL model).

Patrick Falls · December 23rd, 2003, 07:11 PM

thanks again Mr. Lohman. since i have the xl1 will the gretagmcbeth color checker work for me?

Mike Rehmus · December 23rd, 2003, 11:55 PM

If you include a color standard in the scene, then an analyzer may do you some good. But then video is not going to accurately reproduce all the colors in a scene anyway. You can probably zero in on a few colors but not all of them.

Color bars won't necessarily allow you to correct a scene as they originate in your camera, not the scene.

December 23rd, 2003, 10:09 AM	#1
Patrick Falls Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Augusta georgia 15min. from Aiken S.Carolina and 2 hours from Atlanta Posts: 105	color bars vs. color checker i have an xl1 and i also have a gretag mcbeth color checker. i've read that the color bar inside the xl1 and xl1s isn't quite good. if i use my color checker will that be better?

December 23rd, 2003, 10:15 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	The color bars inside the XL1 are indeed incorrect color bars. The XL1S (newer model) has correct SMPTE standard compliance color bars (or EBU bars for the PAL model). __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 23rd, 2003, 07:11 PM	#3
Patrick Falls Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Augusta georgia 15min. from Aiken S.Carolina and 2 hours from Atlanta Posts: 105	cool thanks again Mr. Lohman. since i have the xl1 will the gretagmcbeth color checker work for me?

December 23rd, 2003, 11:55 PM	#4
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	If you include a color standard in the scene, then an analyzer may do you some good. But then video is not going to accurately reproduce all the colors in a scene anyway. You can probably zero in on a few colors but not all of them. Color bars won't necessarily allow you to correct a scene as they originate in your camera, not the scene. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!