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Old January 16th, 2004, 11:41 AM   #1
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Storyboarding/Production Organizers?

Hi all,

I'm trying to figure out the best way to manage film and television projects - I'm a producer/director/writer. Here is what I have and what I'm thinking about getting. Can you share how you manage your projects?

Have:

Final Draft 6 on Mac, Office X on Mac, no decent storyboarding software (but, have a storyboard artist available - i can't draw)

Thinking about getting:

KeynotePro's new Pitchboards:
http://www.keynotepro.com/keynotepro...tchboards.html

I'm not sure what the best management software is out there. I know of Movie Magic and such. But, there must be some other choices for a producer/director/writer ?
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Old January 16th, 2004, 12:28 PM   #2
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Since you have Final Draft 6, it seems like Frame Forge 3D would be a logical addition. It's from the Writer's Store:

http://www.writersstore.com

Frame Forge itself is at:

http://www.writersstore.com/product....id=1725&cPath=.

Hope this helps.
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Old January 16th, 2004, 12:37 PM   #3
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Yowza, pricey! Do you own it? If so, if you're happy with it..I'll definately consider it. I'd like to hear from someone that owns it and uses it.

I've read a few posts in my travels that mention it. That was a while ago..

Thanks for the post!

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Old January 16th, 2004, 12:45 PM   #4
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I'm doing my first storyboard right now, but with pencil and paper. Crude to be sure. I would like a product like FrameForge, but my $$ is going toward a NLE, audio gear, and lighting right now. Maybe my next project.

There is brief review of FrameForge in Issue 52, Vol 10 of MovieMaker. It seems really cool, because once you set up a scene, you can look at several camera angles, and movements. It seems like the actual shoot could be highly efficient if all the angles and blocking were 99% done ahead of time.
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Old January 16th, 2004, 12:46 PM   #5
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Cool, thanks man!

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Old January 16th, 2004, 01:25 PM   #6
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FrameForge looks like a great program, but according to its website (http://www.frameforge3d.com/purchase.php) the Mac version isn't going to be out until next month. They do offer a PC demo version though, so that would be something to try out. Hopefully the Mac will too.
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Old January 16th, 2004, 08:24 PM   #7
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Frame Forge is pretty neat but I would think a storyboard artist could do it faster. Of course if you were proficient with FF then maybe you could be fast, also.

One valuable tool is the ability to place the camera, select a lens and place props in a room the same size as your studio or what you have available. The lens selector is a great help since it shows how a change in lens affects the foreground/background. However it seems rather pricey for what it does.
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Old January 16th, 2004, 11:29 PM   #8
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Pixar's Finding Nemo was done on paper. Then they took the sketches and edited it to together with sound FX and temp music to get a better picture of what it was like.

Pencil and paper works and there's no learning curve or bugs (well, hopefully you don't have any in your house!).
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Old January 17th, 2004, 03:44 PM   #9
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Storyboarding with Poser

Poser has a huge library of free 3D models on renderosity.com and is fairly cheap for ver 3.x

Poser is Mac and PC and files can be used for the most part across platforms.

Also like most 3d programs you can take location shots and put them up as backdrops in your scene. either as a simple backdrop or projected onto a piece of geometry.

sometimes i print these out in B&W and trace them with a lightbox. then fill in other detai.

looks very professional. people ooh and ahh over them. and i'm an OK doodler at best.
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Old January 17th, 2004, 05:57 PM   #10
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These are great suggestions! Thanks everybody..

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Old January 17th, 2004, 07:38 PM   #11
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Pitchboard is basically the same as PowerPoint and Keynote.

Frame Forge looks interesting, but I'd want to take it for a test run before buying it.

Christopher, I saw a storyboard once where the guy took his digital still camera to the locations where he wanted to shoot, brought along a couple of friends to pose...then put all the stills together to create a slide show. Pretty effective, actually.

As for production management software, the only one I've seen that appears worth anything is Gorilla. It's got lots of features but is pricey...and to be honest, at that price I like to see a program that "looks" professionally-made. Gorilla looks to me like it was programmed professionally, but then due to budget constraints, they let their kids do the layout and design. Too bad. A professional look tells me that they're committed to constantly improving and upgrading their product. A shoddy appearance makes me think otherwise.
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