SDHC reader confusion at DVinfo.net

Andy Tejral · May 7th, 2009, 01:37 PM

For some reason, I assumed that I could use an old SD reader with my new-fangled SDHC cards.

I'm going to need a new card reader, aren't I?

Please answer quick, UPS dude is on the way with my new camera (hmc150)!

Battle Vaughan · May 7th, 2009, 01:57 PM

Right, you need a card reader that specifies sdhc ... and some we have tried don't work..we have had good luck with the Lexar SDHC reader, model RW047-7000...hth / Battle Vaughan/miamiherald.com video team

Robert M Wright · May 7th, 2009, 03:32 PM

Newegg sells a bunch of different card readers. Here's one you might consider:

Newegg.com - Transcend TS-RDP8W USB 2.0 All-in-One Multi Card Reader - Card Readers

Paul R Johnson · May 7th, 2009, 03:39 PM

I've not yet found any that don't work - including real cheapies. Could it be old USB1 versions that are the problem? I assume there were some?

Andy Tejral · May 7th, 2009, 03:55 PM

OIY! Genius! Ya know, I really am pretty smart. I just find it hard to prove from time to time.

Amazon is selling a combo Transcend 16gb with reader for less than the cost of the card by itself!

Robert M Wright · May 7th, 2009, 04:13 PM

Be sure you are buying directly from Amazon. Buying flash memory, from an unknown third party, is a very iffy proposition. Inferior, counterfeit flash memory is quite common.

Andy Tejral · May 7th, 2009, 04:23 PM

Yeah, I got the Amazon special Frustration-Free Packaging. But I'll send 'em back and get the combo setups.

I just looked at bestbuy: $160 for a 16GB class 6. Amazon $40. THAT is a markup!

John Peterson · May 8th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Here is what I did. I primarily use Transcend 16 GB SDHC cards (Model TS16GSDHC6) in my Sony PMW-EX1 camera. I purchased quite a few of them because they are so cheap and work so well. I decided I wanted a card reader so the next time I bought one I bought the combo card and reader Andy mentioned above:

Amazon.com: Transcend 16 GB SDHC Class 6 Flash Memory Card with Card Reader TS16GSDHC6-S5W: Electronics

It was the same card with a card reader.

The card reader works great with both SDHC and SD cards and the reader cost practically nothing.

John

Robert M Wright · May 8th, 2009, 03:22 PM

How do you use SDHC cards in an EX1?

Andy Tejral · May 8th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Peterson

Amazon.com: Transcend 16 GB SDHC Class 6 Flash Memory Card with Card Reader TS16GSDHC6-S5W: Electronics

It was the same card with a card reader.

Yeah, just ordered one. I'll return one of the solo cards.

John Peterson · May 9th, 2009, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert M Wright

How do you use SDHC cards in an EX1?

You need firmware 1.11 and certain specific Express Card adapters and SDHC cards as described here:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sony-xdca...sxs-cards.html

John

Robert M Wright · May 9th, 2009, 08:01 AM

Dang. I'm way, way, way more interested in getting an EX1 now. Will that work with 32GB SDHC cards?

Robert M Wright · May 9th, 2009, 11:29 AM

I was just looking at Convergent Design's brochure for the new nanoFlash that's coming out in June.

With an EX1 or EX3, combine that Express Card adapter with a nanoFlash unit, and you've got excellent quality, redundant recording (approaching fail safe - super quality 4:2:2 on CF cards, with "low quality" backup on SDHC cards!) for astonishingly low cost (after biting the bullet for the cost of the nanoFlash unit).

This is just the sort of thing that should start putting some real market pressure on Sony and SanDisk to drop SxS card prices down to more reasonable levels.

Boyd Ostroff · May 15th, 2009, 12:59 PM

This is interesting... just yesterday I got an 8gb Sandisk SDHC card (for non-video uses) and was not able to get it to work properly. I was using the internal card reader slot on a brand new Dell Inspiron E7400 with Vista Home Premium 64bit. The card appeared to mount and work properly, showing about 8GB free space. I started copying a large number of files, and after about 2GB copying I started getting errors for every file.

I tried using my older USB card adaptor and it mounted and showed the files. Tried reformatting the card twice and it failed. So I tried formatting in the internal card slot and it seemed to be doing its thing, but hung forever as the progress bar reached the end. After that I could not get the card to appear at all on the Dell or on my MacBook Pro either.

Returned it to the store for an exchange, thinking the card was bad. Have not tried using the replacement card yet, but am wondering if the card was actually bad or if it was some other issue?

Battle Vaughan · May 15th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Boyd, I don't have hard info, only my experience, but I've had three SDHC card readers --
one would read one brand of card and not another, one would not read either brand, and one (the Lexar I mentioned above) reads all the cards I have tried. Not pushing any brand, but I'm guessing there is some kind of variance in cards and/or readers that makes matching your cards and reader important.

AFAIK there are no USB 1 SDHC card readers, as someone asked, but the standard sd card readers, or card reader slots (I have a built in my desktop that is) may be. I have never gotten an older sd reader to work with the hc cards. /BVaughan

May 7th, 2009, 01:37 PM	#1
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	SDHC reader confusion For some reason, I assumed that I could use an old SD reader with my new-fangled SDHC cards. I'm going to need a new card reader, aren't I? Please answer quick, UPS dude is on the way with my new camera (hmc150)! __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

May 7th, 2009, 03:55 PM	#5
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	OIY! Genius! Ya know, I really am pretty smart. I just find it hard to prove from time to time. Amazon is selling a combo Transcend 16gb with reader for less than the cost of the card by itself! __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

May 7th, 2009, 04:23 PM	#7
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Yeah, I got the Amazon special Frustration-Free Packaging. But I'll send 'em back and get the combo setups. I just looked at bestbuy: $160 for a 16GB class 6. Amazon $40. THAT is a markup! __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

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May 7th, 2009, 01:57 PM	#2
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	Right, you need a card reader that specifies sdhc ... and some we have tried don't work..we have had good luck with the Lexar SDHC reader, model RW047-7000...hth / Battle Vaughan/miamiherald.com video team

May 7th, 2009, 03:32 PM	#3
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Newegg sells a bunch of different card readers. Here's one you might consider: Newegg.com - Transcend TS-RDP8W USB 2.0 All-in-One Multi Card Reader - Card Readers

May 7th, 2009, 03:39 PM	#4
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	I've not yet found any that don't work - including real cheapies. Could it be old USB1 versions that are the problem? I assume there were some?

May 7th, 2009, 04:13 PM	#6
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Be sure you are buying directly from Amazon. Buying flash memory, from an unknown third party, is a very iffy proposition. Inferior, counterfeit flash memory is quite common.

May 8th, 2009, 03:01 PM	#8
John Peterson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Monroe, NY Posts: 703	Here is what I did. I primarily use Transcend 16 GB SDHC cards (Model TS16GSDHC6) in my Sony PMW-EX1 camera. I purchased quite a few of them because they are so cheap and work so well. I decided I wanted a card reader so the next time I bought one I bought the combo card and reader Andy mentioned above: Amazon.com: Transcend 16 GB SDHC Class 6 Flash Memory Card with Card Reader TS16GSDHC6-S5W: Electronics It was the same card with a card reader. The card reader works great with both SDHC and SD cards and the reader cost practically nothing. John

May 8th, 2009, 03:22 PM	#9
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	How do you use SDHC cards in an EX1?

May 9th, 2009, 08:01 AM	#12
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	Dang. I'm way, way, way more interested in getting an EX1 now. Will that work with 32GB SDHC cards?

May 9th, 2009, 11:29 AM	#13
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	I was just looking at Convergent Design's brochure for the new nanoFlash that's coming out in June. With an EX1 or EX3, combine that Express Card adapter with a nanoFlash unit, and you've got excellent quality, redundant recording (approaching fail safe - super quality 4:2:2 on CF cards, with "low quality" backup on SDHC cards!) for astonishingly low cost (after biting the bullet for the cost of the nanoFlash unit). This is just the sort of thing that should start putting some real market pressure on Sony and SanDisk to drop SxS card prices down to more reasonable levels.

May 15th, 2009, 12:59 PM	#14
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	This is interesting... just yesterday I got an 8gb Sandisk SDHC card (for non-video uses) and was not able to get it to work properly. I was using the internal card reader slot on a brand new Dell Inspiron E7400 with Vista Home Premium 64bit. The card appeared to mount and work properly, showing about 8GB free space. I started copying a large number of files, and after about 2GB copying I started getting errors for every file. I tried using my older USB card adaptor and it mounted and showed the files. Tried reformatting the card twice and it failed. So I tried formatting in the internal card slot and it seemed to be doing its thing, but hung forever as the progress bar reached the end. After that I could not get the card to appear at all on the Dell or on my MacBook Pro either. Returned it to the store for an exchange, thinking the card was bad. Have not tried using the replacement card yet, but am wondering if the card was actually bad or if it was some other issue?

May 15th, 2009, 01:14 PM	#15
Battle Vaughan Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami, FL USA Posts: 1,505	Boyd, I don't have hard info, only my experience, but I've had three SDHC card readers -- one would read one brand of card and not another, one would not read either brand, and one (the Lexar I mentioned above) reads all the cards I have tried. Not pushing any brand, but I'm guessing there is some kind of variance in cards and/or readers that makes matching your cards and reader important. AFAIK there are no USB 1 SDHC card readers, as someone asked, but the standard sd card readers, or card reader slots (I have a built in my desktop that is) may be. I have never gotten an older sd reader to work with the hc cards. /BVaughan