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Old July 28th, 2004, 04:02 AM   #1
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Hi,
I'm actually looking for a remote camera, something similar to the canon nu-700 (the nu700 is too expensive). Is there a similar (and cheaper) alternative? anyone knows?
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Old August 2nd, 2004, 04:36 PM   #2
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I think the best place to look for something like this is in the
security camera area. Those are always remote. There are
different types of camera's with different sets of resolution,
color vs. B&W and different output formats and quality.

Whether or not this is good enough for you I don't know.
You would also need to look into how to get the signal into
your computer if that is what you want.

Talking a bit more about what you are trying to do might help
people in giving you suggestions better suited to your "problem".
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 02:13 AM   #3
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well actually I'm looking for one that would enable me to shoot events... something which does not require a cameraman behind a camera. its for an average sized auditorium... I'm looking for something that would be able to shoot the person at the front of the auditorium and project the output onto a screen and also to record. I hope I'm making some sense...
basically something that produces video quality that's similar to a DV cam (eg. Canon XL1s & XM2), which can be ceiling mounted and remotely operated...
am I talking rubbish?
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 05:58 AM   #4
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I believe there are some good quality CCTV/security camera's
out there. I would look at those first... some even have remote
zoom etc. capability.
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 08:07 AM   #5
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I'm by no means an expert, so take my commentary with a large grain of salt, but from what I understand, if you want the quality of an XL-1S on a remote control pan/tilt mount, your best bet is probably to buy or build a remote-control pan/tilt mount, a LANC remote control, and an XL-1S. I agree that a security camera is definitely the "budget" answer, but the image quality probably wouldn't be nearly as good as the XL-1S's, since the XL-1S has 3 large ccds and high quality lenses, whereas the security cameras probably have one small one and relatively cheap lenses. I'd definitely advise not buying a security rig sight unseen -- test it to make sure you get good enough quality for the uses you want.

My university has a system like what you describe in a few of the larger lecture halls, and they appear to have a commercial pan/tilt head supporting an ENG camera of some sort (it's hanging from the ceiling so I've never got a good look at the brand names).
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 09:43 AM   #6
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Sony makes a cheap remote control tripod for ?~$150?.

John Beale's TRV900 site has information on it I believe.

http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/ac...es.html#tripod
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 10:09 AM   #7
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No idea of how good these are, or if they even work at all!... but this topic reminded me of one of the annoying ads that constantly flashes on the DV.com website: http://www.cameraturret.com

Perhaps the best solution for what you want would involve running a long firewire cable (you can get amplifiers for this) back to a deck or even a DVD recorder. That way you would have the full DV quality. Just a thought...
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 03:09 PM   #8
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<<<-- Originally posted by Calvin Low : well actually I'm looking for one that would enable me to shoot events... something which does not require a cameraman behind a camera. its for an average sized auditorium... I'm looking for something that would be able to shoot the person at the front of the auditorium and project the output onto a screen and also to record. I hope I'm making some sense...
basically something that produces video quality that's similar to a DV cam (eg. Canon XL1s & XM2), which can be ceiling mounted and remotely operated...
am I talking rubbish? -->>>

Canon makes a completely enclosed XL1s w/ pan and tilt head as part of
the whole unit. It even has a windshield wiper if installed outdoors.

I saw this unit with my own eyes at NAB this year and it was hooked up to
a controller made by another company. I really liked the rig. Nice and
smooth.

I think the cost was about $8K without controller.
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Old August 3rd, 2004, 03:44 PM   #9
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Sony offers an entire line of remote Pan/Tilt/Zoom cameras inlcuding a $5k 3-CCD model (though it looks like its based on the same CCDs in the PDX-10). They also have serveral $1.2k to $1.5k cameras with remote P/T/Z capability.

But even at those lower prices, by the time you add the P/T/Z control station, wiring, etc...well as they say in DC, "a few billion here and a few billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money!"

http://bssc.sel.sony.com/Professiona...sp=22&id=75153
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Old August 4th, 2004, 07:54 AM   #10
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I've seen the output from both the Canon version and the Sony of that
camera. Believe me when I say that their video is shabby when compared
to the XL1s. Those "all in one" remote cameras have a
heck of a time with contrast and their pan and tilt is okay for set and
forget, but not that good for trying to follow the action on stage.

The unit I spoke of is "real" all the way and actually reasonably priced for
what it is.
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