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Old September 1st, 2002, 11:12 AM   #1
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Is SVHS Dying????

Just a question, is SVHS dying because of the popularity of competing formats? For example (and I do not know this for a fact) are cable and broadcast outlets accepting miniDV and DV tapes more routinely?
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Old September 1st, 2002, 11:42 AM   #2
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SVHS never caught on in the USA .. the masses just would NOT pay the higher $$ for the increase in quality ( 240 lines to 400.

adding to that so far in the USA they masses are NOT willing to pay for the higher HDTV quality .

on the GOOD -they are willing to BUY a DVD player for the same price as a vhs deck..
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Old September 1st, 2002, 01:44 PM   #3
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All the analog formats are dying. I almost posted the Sony announcement last week, that they were discontinuing Betamax (NOT Betacam SP etc.). VHS will be the last analog format. The established consumer base will insure its survival for years to come. JVC could have saved S-VHS when they introduced D-9 (Digital S) a few years back. As it is, S-VHS will gradually fade away. Just like the tapes it records to.

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Old September 1st, 2002, 07:01 PM   #4
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The only thing insuring the survival of analogue is the fact no one has delivered a cheap, effective re-recordable media to the masses yet.

As much as I'd like to buy a miniDV deck so I could record Buffy The Vampire Slayer in digital, until the prices drop to below $300, I'll be quite happy recording on VHS.
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Old September 1st, 2002, 08:05 PM   #5
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One of the questions I am asking is whether broadcast and cable outlets are making the switch. At one time SVHS was a necessity, but that looks like it is changing. I actually had one broadcaster request a ** HI8 ** tape from me and they used it (and the worse cut on that tape too!!
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Old September 1st, 2002, 09:29 PM   #6
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That will depend on the size market your working with. Smaller, rural markets, are still using 3/4 U-matic, U-matic SP and S-VHS. Slowly, these markets are moving towards the digital formats. S-VHS never had much acceptance or penitration in larger markets. They moved some time ago to Betacam SP, Betacam SX or the digital formats.

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Old September 2nd, 2002, 04:21 AM   #7
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I don't know about the states but in Japan they accept stuff on mini DV, they usually ask for stuff to sent in on beta but they will take mini DV, they'll transfer it to beta or whatever format they use. I spoke with a producer at NHK once, the Japanese public station, and he asked what I edited, shot with, told him FCP and an XL-1, he said no problem. For his short segment on a news program people regularly shoot stuff on mini DV and send those tapes in to him.
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Old September 2nd, 2002, 04:36 AM   #8
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The station I work for airs all commercials and paids (30 minute infomercials) on SVHS. . .and I'm in Houston! Har har har har.
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Old September 4th, 2002, 05:37 AM   #9
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<They moved some time ago to Betacam SP, Betacam SX or the digital formats.>

Jeff, SX is also slightly digital;)

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Old September 4th, 2002, 04:53 PM   #10
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They said vinyl would die with the introduction of CDs, but look whats making a comeback.

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Old September 4th, 2002, 07:11 PM   #11
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Vinyl is making a comeback because there some audiophiles who would argue that vinyl sounds better. I don't think it would be easy to find videophiles that think analog is better than digital. Cheaper, maybe, but not better. Analog will continue to exist because of the huge libraries of existing material. I had some dupes made a couple of weeks ago of ten year old 1 inch masters and they still looked great. I'll probably have them converted to digital in the next 5 years, but I'm in no hurry to incur this expense.

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Old September 4th, 2002, 08:19 PM   #12
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Analog is cheaper than digital--except when talking about betacam! Aren't those like 30 or 15 thousand dollar cameras? Get a really nice digital piece of gear for 10000, can't you?
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Old September 4th, 2002, 11:06 PM   #13
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Hello:

Hey man, I still shoot SVHS sometimes with a good ol' Panasonic AG-456. In fact I shot a project back in April with it. Image is still ok! Plus tapes are cheaper. I do prefer miniDV. But I wouldn't say SVHS is dying. I'd just say its like that girl that was once popular in high school is now just getting old, and less popular. But that doesn't mean she's dying and not pretty anymore. She's just not as popular.

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Old September 12th, 2002, 04:16 PM   #14
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Well, the figures certainly show the decline of sales of SVHS decks. They were never very high in the US to begin with, and they are on the way down. From that point of view, you could well argue that SVHS is dying.
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Old September 13th, 2002, 12:40 PM   #15
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On Vinyl Records...

I know that CDs do not always record better than vinyl. For example in Jesus Christ Superstar there is a cut as Capiacus is arguing with his colleagues. On vinyl you can clearly hear the baratone without any problem, while on CD he is barely audible.
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