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Old January 20th, 2005, 07:43 AM   #16
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Agreed. I think! Depending on what I'm doing will depend on mics/placement. At a gig, I simply don't have the space to have any other mic than my electret (just a simple 108db peak one from sony.. ecm series) mounted on the camera. It would get destroyed in most of the venues I use! Sometimes I'm lucky enough to get a fairly balanced desk feed to mix in, and I'm happy. I've never heard a zoom noise because the volume of the gigs is so loud it's simply not an issue.

Mounting the Sennheiser and the default Sony mic was just for comparison in a friends mini-studio. I've never used the Sony mic for anything, and comparison was simply for fun and information.
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Old January 20th, 2005, 08:40 AM   #17
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Carlos,

I tend to agree about the zoom motor noise on most cameras. As you may know, Lightwave products had a solution for the original XL1/s series that isolated the mic from the camera body. I noticed that on my XL-2, Canon has incorporated this solution into the design. IOW, the mic mount portion of the viewfinder is now a flexible rubber construction whereas on previous models it was rigid (hence the Lightwave add-ons). I have experienced no zoom noise on the XL-2. However, it's still the same mic and so the audio response limitations are still present, but it's well isolated from the camera body.

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p.s. Tyge, I see you are located just a little south of me. I fish Lake Lewisville alot as I live just a couple streets from the boat ramp.
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Old January 24th, 2005, 10:50 AM   #18
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Yeah, Greg, we are not that far from each other. (Other than the fact I would just as soon watch ice melt as fish! LOL) We should try to meet some time for a beer, maybe at Bass Pro Shops.

Thanks for all the feedback, you guys have been a real help. After handling and spending a little time behind a PD150 this past weekend, I've made up my mind and am ordering the following today or tomorrow from DVinfo.net sponsor B&H Photo:

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I have some other items I will be acquiring as well, from other sources. A shoulder pod, zoom controller, extra batteries, Pelican 1600 case, Sony soft bag and Bogen tripod (Not sure which one just yet).
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Old January 24th, 2005, 04:46 PM   #19
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'Bout time, Floyd! You've been threatening to buy a new camera for two years!

Greg, I lived in The Colony for a couple of years, but am now back in Houston. Watch out for that Tyge fella, though, he'll stiff you with the bill. ;-)

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Old January 24th, 2005, 04:57 PM   #20
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Middleton. I know it took me a while to make the leap. I didn't want to let go of the dough! I'm anxious to get the new equipment in hand. He who dies with the most toys wins, right?
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Old January 24th, 2005, 09:46 PM   #21
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Tyge, I know you decided to go with the PD170, but I'm interested to know what accessory list you compiled for the XL2...I'm interested in buying one with some accessories, and I have no clue what to get or what they'll cost. Thanks.
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Old January 25th, 2005, 09:39 AM   #22
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It was pretty simple, really, went something like this:

XL2
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=339002&is=REG

Rycote Windjammer
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=258922&is=REG

Sony Wireless Mic Kit
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=274576&is=REG

I was going to add a hard case, soft bag, batteries and a Bogen tripod as well.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 10:02 PM   #23
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Having heard and agreed with that, the mono Rode VideoMic is really quite good. Noticeably better than the mic on the XL2. The mini TRS feeds both channels. Streets for @ $150 USD.

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Old January 31st, 2005, 03:15 PM   #24
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thanks for the info!
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Old January 31st, 2005, 09:34 PM   #25
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You might want to check out this recent article in EventDV magazine:

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Good luck.

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Old January 31st, 2005, 09:42 PM   #26
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<<<-- Originally posted by Dennis Vogel : You might want to check out this recent article in EventDV magazine:

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/Read...ArticleID=9267

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The article may be serious, but camera prices and the place they quote certainly are not. Express Cameras.com seems to be a "dangerous" place to buy from.


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